Except Automatic exposure involves the camera setting one or more portion of the exposure, so you're wrong on that count (What it isn't is continuous AE).
In fact I've got my K100D setup so that hitting the AE-Lock button does exactly the same thing in M mode with an A lens as it does with a pre-A, just without the stop-down part. Works like a charm. -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: > How many times I have to tell you? I know what one shot stop down manual > exposure Metering is. I have used it on my spotmatic 1000's of times. > Yes, the DSLRS set the shutter speed instead of turning the shutter > speed dial > On the spotmatics but it AINT automatic exposure and it AINT open > aperture > . Are you retarded or What? I don’t buy what I don’t need or want. > And I don’t have to use one to know what it CANT do, that’s why I read > the > Spec sheet before I buy. You act like I cannot understand unless I use > That particular camera, and that is absurd. Have you ever used aperture > priority AE like The KX/LX has/had? Totally different function. > jco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Paul Stenquist > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 2:50 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? > > Because it's not shit. I've owned two *ist D cameras and have used K > lenses on numerous occasions. No problem. Is your opinion based on > experience or bullshit? > Paul > On Oct 8, 2006, at 11:33 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >> Why settle for shit for no reason? >> Glass is still definitely half empty. >> jco >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of >> Tim Øsleby >> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:27 AM >> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >> >> I stand corrected, silly me. My perception is obviously wrong >> [slapping myself happily over forehead]. >> >> The glass is half empty, not half full. >> >> >> Tim >> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of >> J. >> C. O'Connell >> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:03 >> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >> >> No, an "extra bonus" on a $1000 top line camera would be >> A camera that could read the PK PKM lens aperture setting. That >> this is >> Not done is ridiculous as its friggin SIMPLE to implement... >> Semi automanual manual is good but it aint open aperture AE >> With PK PKM, while is very possible but still is not done. >> jco >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of >> Tim Øsleby >> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:46 AM >> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >> >> Welcome onboard David. >> >> I had exactly the same thoughts as you about metering manual lenses >> before I >> tried it. In real life, it is no problem. After 15 minutes using >> it, you >> will get used to it. >> In high speed situation you must think a bit ahead, watching at the >> light. >> If lighting changes you need to re push the button every now and >> then to >> make sure to get the exposure right before the decisive moment. >> >> Lack of matrix metering is a bit frustrating. But in most >> situations you >> can >> get around it using the histogram fine tuning the exposure. It's the >> same as >> the green button thing. You need to think a bit ahead, being prepared >> for >> the decisive moment. >> >> But what can you expect. Consider the ability to use old lenses as an >> extra >> bonus. >> >> >> Tim >> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of >> David Bliss >> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 10:01 >> To: pdml@pdml.net >> Subject: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'm new to the list but I've been reading the archives for the last >> few >> weeks so hopefully I will not make too much of a fool of myself. >> I'm a >> long >> time amateur user of Pentax 35mm film gear about to buy my first >> DSLR. I >> was >> minutes away from buying a K100D when the K10D was announced... >> >> I have a lot of manual-aperture K-mount glass, so being able to use it >> on >> a new DSLR is important to me. I know there are workarounds for using >> such on the K100D but they're pretty bad (metering on DOF-preview only >> and/or manually setting aperture to match the lens's). >> >> The dpreview page >> (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page2.asp) >> and a few other verbatim copies thereof explicitly says >> "Ability to use lens aperture ring" so I was very excitted to think >> that >> Pentax would have finally fixed this (idiotic) design error on the >> K10D. >> >> But, the press photos of the K10D clearly show an absence of a >> mechanical >> aperture coupling lever. And the (mis)released manual from a >> couple of >> days ago documents the same behavior as the K100D. Can anyone confirm >> this for sure one was or the other? >> >> Also, can anyone explain to me why the K100D (and apparently the K10D) >> disable >> (a) non-central AF sensors (for focus confirmation, not AF, obviously) >> and >> (b) all the metering modes except CWA when using a pre-A lens? I >> cannot >> conceive of any possible reason these features would care about the >> lens >> aperture being set manually. >> >> Thanks! >> David Bliss >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
