You are missing the point. Communication Via any method is better than ZERO. The new bodies are IGNORING lens communication Of the K/M lenses. Just because its mechanical Doesn't mean its of no value or meaningless. jco
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 12:13 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The JCO survey That's what makes them outdated. A and later lenses communicate that information electrically (And F and later ones are electronic). -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: > The K/M lenses communicate their fstop > Setting via a mechanical cam. The DSLRs > Release by pentax ignore that communique. > That is the body's fault for not listening > As the information is there for the taking. > jco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 11:28 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: The JCO survey > > Of course, that observation is utterly irrelevant to the point of why > K/M lenses are outdated. > > They don't support full lens/body communication, since they lack the > firmware and digital communication contacts. > > -Adam > > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> The K/M lenses have automation features the new camera >> Is not exploiting. That's the DSLR body's >> Fault, not the lenses fault. >> jco >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of >> Adam Maas >> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:45 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: The JCO survey >> >> If they weren't outdated, they'd support full body/lens communication. > >> Which they don't. Therefore they are outdated. >> >> -Adam >> >> >> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>> The lenses are not outdated, the new bodies are >>> Just too stupid to know how to use them properly. >>> jco >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of >>> William Robb >>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 3:05 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: The JCO survey >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "P. J. Alling" >>> Subject: Re: The JCO survey >>> >>> >>>> Of course you can meter with them, if you read the manual, can > figure >>>> out the contradicting claims and set the proper function. But just >>>> mounting the lens and shooting it doesn't work. How many people >>>> actually wade through the entire manual, except for the anal >>>> retentives >>>> on this list, that is. >>> It's the anal retentive types that want to use outdated lenses on >> modern >>> cameras. >>> >>> William Robb >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net