NO. It's not normal to agree to disagree when the concept of your post is in error to what I am stating. You claimed that different people have different finders, eyesight, etc. so the results will be different and what I am stating and have been stating is that the lenses themselves are different and the wider lens will always be harder to focus for ANY GIVEN situation, finder, eyesight etc. ( The only caveat, and I stated it right up front, is that we are talking about general purpose finders found in most SLRS, not special purpose ones optimized specifically for wide angles or telephotos.) Thats a fundamentally different thing and I am saying your wrong in the concept of that reply post of yours. Someone may think they just disagree but if their concept is invalid to my contention than thats another matter altogether and I won't just "let it drop" because it implies that your post is somehow a valid rebuttal/opinion when its not if it is irrelavant to my contention. jco
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 3:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list? No one is missing your point. How could they possibly miss it? You've stated it numerous times. When that happens, normal people say something like: "We'll just have to agree to disagree, and then they let it go. You never, ever let it go. At some point you start using profanity to underscore your frustration. Make your point once, maybe twice, then let it go. That's how normal people behave in a public forum. Paul On Nov 11, 2006, at 3:18 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Your still missing my point, What I am/was stating is > it's the differences in the lenses depth of > field and it does not matter all these other > things/factors. For any given situation ( other > than specialty finders designed specifically > for wide angles or telephotos which I definately > stated right in the beginning) , the wider > the lens, the harder to focus at the same > f-stop due to the increased DOF. > jco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > Shel Belinkoff > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:36 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list? > > > Assuming for a moment that JCO is correct in his generalization, > one of > the things he's failing to consider is the differences between people. > Some have better eyesight, some wear glasses, some glasses are better > suited to use with a camera, or even certain cameras, some people are > color blind, and so on. That being the case, different people may > have > different experiences when focusing. Then there are different finders > and screens, some are brighter than others, some offer up more > contrast, > some have focusing aids which may either help or hinder focusing in > some > situations, and one or another may be preferred and give better > results > for any one person. > > Shel > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: David Savage > >>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>> I say You're both wrong then. >>> ANSWER MY QUESTION : >> >> They did. It didn't track with your experience. Question answered. >> >> This isn't a physics or mathematics problem John, where there is only >> one true answer. Some find long lenses easier to focus, some don't. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net