Okay, it's hopeless. On Nov 11, 2006, at 4:02 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> NO. It's not normal to agree to disagree when the concept > of your post is in error to what I am stating. You claimed that > different > people have different finders, eyesight, etc. so the > results will be different and what I am stating and have > been stating is that the lenses themselves are different > and the wider lens will always be harder to focus > for ANY GIVEN situation, finder, eyesight etc. ( The > only caveat, and I stated it right up front, is that > we are talking about general purpose finders found in most > SLRS, not special purpose ones optimized specifically for > wide angles or telephotos.) Thats > a fundamentally different thing and I am saying your > wrong in the concept of that reply post of yours. > Someone may think they just disagree but if their concept > is invalid to my contention than thats another matter > altogether and I won't just "let it drop" because it > implies that your post is somehow a valid rebuttal/opinion when > its not if it is irrelavant to my contention. > jco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of > Paul Stenquist > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 3:35 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list? > > > No one is missing your point. How could they possibly miss it? You've > stated it numerous times. When that happens, normal people say > something like: "We'll just have to agree to disagree, and then they > let it go. You never, ever let it go. At some point you start using > profanity to underscore your frustration. > > Make your point once, maybe twice, then let it go. That's how normal > people behave in a public forum. > Paul > On Nov 11, 2006, at 3:18 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >> Your still missing my point, What I am/was stating is >> it's the differences in the lenses depth of >> field and it does not matter all these other >> things/factors. For any given situation ( other >> than specialty finders designed specifically >> for wide angles or telephotos which I definately >> stated right in the beginning) , the wider >> the lens, the harder to focus at the same >> f-stop due to the increased DOF. >> jco >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of >> Shel Belinkoff >> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:36 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list? >> >> >> Assuming for a moment that JCO is correct in his generalization, >> one of >> the things he's failing to consider is the differences between >> people. >> Some have better eyesight, some wear glasses, some glasses are better >> suited to use with a camera, or even certain cameras, some people are >> color blind, and so on. That being the case, different people may >> have >> different experiences when focusing. Then there are different >> finders >> and screens, some are brighter than others, some offer up more >> contrast, >> some have focusing aids which may either help or hinder focusing in >> some >> situations, and one or another may be preferred and give better >> results >> for any one person. >> >> Shel >> >> >> >>> [Original Message] >>> From: David Savage >> >>>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>>> I say You're both wrong then. >>>> ANSWER MY QUESTION : >>> >>> They did. It didn't track with your experience. Question answered. >>> >>> This isn't a physics or mathematics problem John, where there is >>> only >>> one true answer. Some find long lenses easier to focus, some don't. >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net