Okay, it's hopeless.

On Nov 11, 2006, at 4:02 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

> NO. It's not normal to agree to disagree when the concept
> of your post is in error to what I am stating. You claimed that
> different
> people have different finders, eyesight, etc. so the
> results will be different and what I am stating and have
> been stating is that the lenses themselves are different
> and the wider lens will always be harder to focus
> for ANY GIVEN situation, finder, eyesight etc. ( The
> only caveat, and I stated it right up front, is that
> we are talking about general purpose finders found in most
> SLRS, not special purpose ones optimized specifically for
> wide angles or telephotos.) Thats
> a fundamentally different thing and I am saying your
> wrong in the concept of that reply post of yours.
> Someone may think they just disagree but if their concept
> is invalid to my contention than thats another matter
>  altogether and I won't just "let it drop" because it
> implies that your post is somehow a valid rebuttal/opinion when
> its not if it is irrelavant to my contention.
> jco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
> Behalf Of
> Paul Stenquist
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 3:35 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?
>
>
> No one is missing your point. How could they possibly miss it? You've
> stated it numerous times. When that happens, normal people say
> something like: "We'll just have to agree to disagree, and then they
> let it go. You never, ever let it go. At some point you start using
> profanity to underscore your frustration.
>
> Make your point once, maybe twice, then let it go. That's how normal
> people behave in a public forum.
> Paul
> On Nov 11, 2006, at 3:18 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>
>> Your still missing my point, What I am/was stating is
>> it's the differences in the lenses depth of
>> field and it does not matter all these other
>> things/factors. For any given situation ( other
>> than specialty finders designed specifically
>> for wide angles or telephotos which I definately
>> stated right in the beginning) , the wider
>> the lens, the harder to focus at the same
>> f-stop due to the increased DOF.
>> jco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Shel Belinkoff
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:36 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?
>>
>>
>> Assuming for a moment that JCO is correct in his generalization,
>> one of
>> the things he's failing to consider is the differences between  
>> people.
>> Some have better eyesight, some wear glasses, some glasses are better
>> suited to use with a camera, or even certain cameras, some people are
>> color blind, and so on.  That being the case, different people may
>> have
>> different experiences when focusing.  Then there are different  
>> finders
>> and screens, some are brighter than others, some offer up more
>> contrast,
>> some have focusing aids which may either help or hinder focusing in
>> some
>> situations, and one or another may be preferred and give better
>> results
>> for any one person.
>>
>> Shel
>>
>>
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: David Savage
>>
>>>>  J. C. O'Connell  wrote:
>>>> I say You're both wrong then.
>>>> ANSWER MY QUESTION :
>>>
>>> They did. It didn't track with your experience. Question answered.
>>>
>>> This isn't a physics or mathematics problem John, where there is  
>>> only
>>> one true answer. Some find long lenses easier to focus, some don't.
>>
>>
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