Shel, Bill, Tim, Adam, Paul, and others, Thank you for letting me hijack this thread for an exploration of the US flag and the differences between how I perceive it and how you perceive it from outside the USA. I've learned some things about my own feelings and your thinkings. Thanks, Bob S.
On 1/8/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tim Øsleby wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam > > Maas > > Sent: 9. januar 2007 00:46 > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > > > >> One thing is that Americans tend to have a far more personal > >> relationship with their flag than most other countries. > >> > > Pardon me, but this is nonsense. > > > > This assumption is like assuming that gay people feel deeper because gay > > bars (according to clichés) are louder. > > > > Let me put it this way. I have a very close and personal relationship with > > Tiny Tim. But I don't make poster of him ;-) > > > It's not nonsense. It's distinct in my experience with Americans and > dozens of other nationalities, which indicates that most people > (including Canadians like myself) tend to talk about their country's > flag, while Americans tend to talk about 'their' flag. It's a personal > relationship at a much closer level, the flag is owned by the people, > not the country. It's by no means universal, but it is far, far more > prevalent in the US than elsewhere. > > > > > >> Remember that there's essentially no other > >> universal symbol of the US, ... > > > > This struck another key in me. Could it also be because US basically is a > > multiethnic society? I wonder if we have a less diverged culture in Norway. > > > > > > Tim > > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > > The latter comment is fairly accurate, also it may be because the US > didn't really evolve an identity like most countries, but explicitly > attempted to establish a particular one with the War of Independance. > There really aren't any symbols that are really acceptable to the entire > country. > > -Adam > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
