Well, here's the archeological evidence that led the author to that conclusion: * they had no agricultural technology, i.e. they were hunter gatherers, this came from their fossilized remains + the remains of their prey * they were huge, large skulls and bones * their weapons were huge, designed to take down large game * they hardly lived past the age of 20, from the bone record, the author guesses this is because of the riskiness of taking down such dangerous prey * they lived right before the end of the ice age * their prey moved north as it got warmer * their prey went extinct, probably due to the global warming, which caused their food source to go away * the nearest arrival of the next wave of immigrants (mongoloid) came much much later * some evidence of cannibalism is present, which may or may not indicate desperate situation, or it could just indicate some type of ritual killing * their short life span created a small birth rate
So, it might not be so far fetched. We will never know for sure of course. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Oh, I agree that there were precursors to the current Native Americans, > there's a fare amount of evidence, of them, but global warming killing > them off, really. That's what's silly. > > Gonz wrote: > >>What's silly about it. Its not talking about the native americans that >>were here when the Europeans arrived. Its talking about their >>predecessors. How do you explain their archeological remains? >> >>rg >> >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >>>That's just silly... >>> >>>Gonz wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>A book I'm reading right now indicates that the evidence points to these >>>>first settlers to have been done in by.....drum roll please.... "Global >>>>Warming". Yup, the melting of the last Ice Age drove all the >>>>elephant-like creatures and huge jumbo bison further north and >>>>eventually to extinction. The native humans could not adapt, and they >>>>died off. Apparently they had no mongoloid features, so they were not >>>>the same race of people as the later settlers. >>>> >>>>rg >>>> >>>> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I think that describes many "Native American's" quite well There is >>>>>some evidence that those who emigrated from Asia during the last ice age >>>>>weren't the first, but it doesn't fit the stereotype so this evidence is >>>>>sometimes suppressed. The current natives may have actually displaced >>>>>earlier residents of this continent, thus depriving them of ultimate >>>>>victim hood. Personally I find victim hood to be a crock, you live >>>>>with the world you're given, but some people make it their carriers. >>>>> >>>>>Brendan MacRae wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Well, yes, good point. >>>>>> >>>>>>But I was referring to the point of view of Nativists >>>>>>who claim to be "true Americans," vis-a-vis their >>>>>>fellow immigrants. The idea that it's "those others" >>>>>>that endager "us" rather than the point of view of >>>>>>true Native Americans (to whom all whites were a >>>>>>threat) which is what you describe. Nativism is, >>>>>>paridoxically, a construct that doesn't apply to them >>>>>>since it describes only those who tout a dubious claim >>>>>>of originality. >>>>>> >>>>>>-Brendan >>>>>> >>>>>>--- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I think it has been. Once the Europeans came here, >>>>>>>Eden became endangered >>>>>>>... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Shel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>[Original Message] >>>>>>>>From: Brendan MacRae >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The idea that America is an "endangered >>>>>>>>Eden." It isn't, of course. It never has been. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>>PDML@pdml.net >>>>>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>__________________________________________________ >>>>>>Do You Yahoo!? >>>>>>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>>>>>http://mail.yahoo.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net