yeah, I am working in iPhoto. I have only been using it since my Lightroom beta expired, and really, this is the first image that I have processed with it. (And with only one image done, I can already see the huge limitations.)
Russ On 4/4/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The land is still muddy. You need to treat the midtones independently > of the highlights. You can do that with the shadow/highlight tool or > with curves if you're working in PhotoShop. > Paul > On Apr 4, 2007, at 12:51 AM, Russell Kerstetter wrote: > > > Here is a new, brighter version. It is still a little dark, but much > > more than this and the clouds are just a white mess. > > > > http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/spare.html > > > > Thanks again to those who commented. > > > > Russ > > > > On 4/2/07, Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Shel and Godders- > >> > >> Thanks for taking the time to show me some alternative solutions. I > >> like both of your different takes, I also like that you were able to > >> brighten the whole thing up without losing the cloud detail. I > >> fiddled around for a while this evening, but was not able to > >> duplicate > >> our results. I can brighten it up some, but by the time I start to > >> lose cloud detail the water in the lake is still too dark. But that > >> may be the price I have to pay for using free software :) So I will > >> have to mess around with this some more again tomorrow evening and > >> see > >> what I can come up with. Thanks again. > >> > >> Russ > >> > >> On 4/2/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Your original was rendered extremely dark, Russell. It's a simple > >>> landscape scene ... rendered up with a bit bit of balancing between > >>> water and sky, you get this rather nice, rather serene feel out of > >>> it. I took the liberty of doing a couple of edits to give you an > >>> idea > >>> where I'd go with it... It includes your original so you can see the > >>> differences easily. > >>> > >>> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/rk2882/ > >>> > >>> This is a case where if I was using Lightroom I could likely do most > >>> of what I did with its tools, and presuming I had the RAW file to > >>> work with, but with just an 8bit image file to work with Photoshop > >>> allows the kind of gentle, selective editing required to bring > >>> this up. > >>> > >>> 1- Don't underexpose. Determine where the brightest elements are > >>> that > >>> you want to retain detail in and expose correctly for that ... > >>> Placing exposure properly like that takes a little time to figure > >>> out > >>> and if you're not sure you should bracket exposure around it. The > >>> histogram shows you an approximation based on values in the JPEG > >>> preview that is rendered for every file, but if you're capturing in > >>> RAW you can work with what looks like a little bit of highlight > >>> overexposures on the histogram. It's not rigorously calibrated, you > >>> have to work with it to understand what you're seeing. > >>> > >>> 2- Yes, this is a problem. Your screen looks overly bright compared > >>> to the ambient light and that's tricking your eye. Better to > >>> calibrate and profile the screen in modest, normal room light and > >>> work that way so that your eyes and the screen are at proper > >>> luminance values. I calibrate my screen for 140 lumens, gamma 1.8 > >>> and > >>> 5500K white point in normal, indirect room illumination. Move any > >>> light that glares on the screen to a different position so that's > >>> not > >>> a problem. This will make a huge difference in how your photos > >>> come out. > >>> > >>> Godfrey > >>> > >>> > >>> On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Russell Kerstetter wrote: > >>> > >>>> Thanks Bruce, PJ, Paul, Markus Shel and Brian for being honest. > >>>> When > >>>> I look at it objectively, I agree that it is mostly an > >>>> uninteresting > >>>> picture. Maybe next time I will try the 'Auto Compose' function > >>>> on my > >>>> DL. > >>>> > >>>> I have been told several times, that my pictures are too dark. > >>>> To be > >>>> clear, we are talking a few stops dark, but not black or > >>>> anything like > >>>> that, right? > >>>> > >>>> I think there are two issues here (if anyone cares to comment > >>>> further): > >>>> > >>>> 1) Foremost, I think I have a tendency to underexpose, > >>>> specifically > >>>> on shots like this. I really like detail in the clouds and am > >>>> afraid > >>>> of losing it even when the clouds are not the most important > >>>> aspect of > >>>> the picture. IIRC the histogram for this shot had the highlights > >>>> touching the first bar from the right (which is a half-stop right?) > >>>> but I think that what you are seeing on your screen is probably > >>>> darker > >>>> than just a half-stop. > >>>> > >>>> 2) I usually work in a dark room because I hate glare off the > >>>> screen. > >>>> I have been running my mac on gamma 1.8 instead of 2.2, but from > >>>> what > >>>> I am hearing I think that is a negligible part of my problem. > >>>> > >>>> Russ > >>>> (here to learn) > >>>> > >>>> On 4/1/07, Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> This is a reservoir/lake near my mother-in-law's house. Also > >>>>> this is > >>>>> the first photo I have processed with iPhoto. I was using > >>>>> Lightroom > >>>>> beta, iPhoto definately has less features and some irritating > >>>>> limitations, but it does have the 'touch-up' tool, which is pretty > >>>>> handy. > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/IMGP2882.html > >>>>> > >>>>> Honest comments please, thanks for looking. > >>>>> > >>>>> Russ > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Legacy Air, Inc. > >>>>> 11900 Airport Way > >>>>> Broomfield Colorado 80021 > >>>>> (303) 404-0277 > >>>>> fax (303) 404-0280 > >>>>> www.legacy-air.com > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Legacy Air, Inc. > >>>> 11900 Airport Way > >>>> Broomfield Colorado 80021 > >>>> (303) 404-0277 > >>>> fax (303) 404-0280 > >>>> www.legacy-air.com > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>> PDML@pdml.net > >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> PDML@pdml.net > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Legacy Air, Inc. > >> 11900 Airport Way > >> Broomfield Colorado 80021 > >> (303) 404-0277 > >> fax (303) 404-0280 > >> www.legacy-air.com > >> > > > > > > -- > > Legacy Air, Inc. > > 11900 Airport Way > > Broomfield Colorado 80021 > > (303) 404-0277 > > fax (303) 404-0280 > > www.legacy-air.com > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Legacy Air, Inc. 11900 Airport Way Broomfield Colorado 80021 (303) 404-0277 fax (303) 404-0280 www.legacy-air.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
