Then get ready to open you wallet to the tune of 5K or so. And you  
may not be able to see a difference in your results.
Paul
On May 9, 2007, at 9:05 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:

> Fair enough. I will amend...I won't by another APS-C
> sized sensor camera.
>
> -Brendan
> --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Actually the 4/3 system uses a much smaller sensor
>> than the
>> Pentax/Sony/Nikon APS-C equivalent sensor cameras
>> use.  It's the
>> standard promulgated by
>> Kodak/Olympus/Panasonic/Leica. To get the
>> equivalent AOV in 35mm terms you multiply focal
>> length by 2 not just by
>> 1.5, and the sensor is a 5:4 aspect ratio as opposed
>> to the 35mm/APS-C
>> 3:2.  I thought this system was a bad idea when it
>> was first described,
>> (based on the planned sensor size), and I haven't
>> seen anything to make
>> me like it more.  Though the build quality on some
>> of the cameras is
>> impressive, image quality seems to be what could be
>> charitably described
>> as relatively noisy at high ISO, and every view
>> finder I've seen on
>> these cameras can only be described as "squinty".
>>
>> Brendan MacRae wrote:
>>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It was never indicated that the K1D would be full
>>>> frame. It will merely be an upgrade from the
>> K10D,
>>>> which suits me just fine.
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, that's why I said "hypothetical" FF sensor.
>>>
>>> I'm hoping if they do release a K1D that it is FF
>> as
>>> that's the only thing that would really get me
>> excited
>>> at this point. I won't buy another 4/3 camera
>> unless
>>> it could be shown to be a huge improvement over
>> the
>>> current models.
>>>
>>> -Brendan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>  -------------- Original message
>>>> ----------------------
>>>> From: Brendan MacRae
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>
>>>>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pentax To Sell Tokyo HQ, Quit Low-Profit Ops
>>>>>>>
>>>> To
>>>>
>>>>>> Lift Corp  Value
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TOKYO (Nikkei)--Pentax Corp. plans to sell its
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tokyo headquarters  and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> withdraw from less profitable businesses under
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> strategies the camera maker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> crafted to block a takeover bid by optical
>>>>>>>
>>>> glass
>>>>
>>>>>> manufacturer Hoya Corp. ,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> Nikkei learned Wednesday.
>>>>>>> ===========
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that gives the news  a slightly
>>>>>>>
>>>> different
>>>>
>>>>>> slant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that makes a heck of a lot more sense.  I
>>>>>>
>>>> can't
>>>>
>>>>>> imagine the 645D would be
>>>>>> particularly profitable, and even though I'm
>>>>>> disappointed in its demise, I
>>>>>> can't say I'm surprised.  Of all the pro studio
>>>>>> photographers I met while
>>>>>> working at Reed's (many dozens, at least),
>> maybe
>>>>>>
>>>> two
>>>>
>>>>>> of them used digital
>>>>>> medium format.  One only used it because he was
>>>>>> close friends with our
>>>>>> Hasselblad rep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While digital medium format is a nice idea and
>>>>>>
>>>> has a
>>>>
>>>>>> few image quality
>>>>>> benefits, I just don't think it makes sense
>> from
>>>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>>> cost point of view.
>>>>>> Unfortunately for us Pentaxians, Pentax needs
>> to
>>>>>> stick with what will make them
>>>>>> money if they want to stay independant (and
>> keep
>>>>>> their medical devices business
>>>>>> at the same time).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This probably means the aperture simulator will
>>>>>> never show up again, even in a
>>>>>> hypothetical K1D.  Pentax needs all the
>>>>>>
>>>> new-sales
>>>>
>>>>>> revenue it can get right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if a K1D with it's hypothetical FF
>> sensor
>>>>> will even be a reality now. If they are focusing
>>>>>
>>>> on
>>>>
>>>>> beginners and advanced amateurs then I doubt a
>> FF
>>>>> camera is on the horizion soon, if ever. Perhaps
>>>>>
>>>> when
>>>>
>>>>> the switch to FF becomes the norm in DSLR
>>>>> manufacturing maybe, but I wonder if Pentax will
>>>>> survive that long. This is interesting news
>>>>> considering the rumor posted the other day (from
>>>>> another forum) about the "new" cameras coming
>> out
>>>>>
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>> the fall.
>>>>>
>>>>> If they have not had an R&D program running
>>>>>
>>>> parallel
>>>>
>>>>> with the development of the 645D for a FF DSLR
>>>>>
>>>> then I
>>>>
>>>>> would call this a big blunder on their part. A
>>>>>
>>>> full
>>>>
>>>>> frame DSLR would sell in huge numbers vs. a MF
>>>>>
>>>> digicam
>>>>
>>>>> anyday...even if it were a piece of crap. I
>> would
>>>>>
>>>> buy
>>>>
>>>>> one today as I'm learning to not much like the
>> 4/3
>>>>> system. I just don't see the quality in the
>>>>>
>>>> smaller
>>>>
>>>>> sensor even if I enjoy using the K10D. So, I
>> would
>>>>> dump it in a hot minute for a FF camera that I
>> can
>>>>>
>>>> use
>>>>
>>>>> all of my existing lenses on.
>>>>>
>>>>> At this point, I'm really wondering what is
>> going
>>>>>
>>>> on
>>>>
>>>>> at Pentax. It may very well be a while before
>> the
>>>>> reality of what is happening will be known for
>>>>>
>>>> sure.
>>>>
>>>>> -Brendan
>>>>>
>>>>>
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