Sounds like a normal proposition, you pay my time you get all that I take in 
that time frame, you do the editing.

I was thinking more along the lines of someone shooting without being hired 
by a specific client.
I did state potential client.

Kenneth Waller

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking at Pictures


> Working in the ad biz, I've seen the full results of shoots from top
> pros. Believe me, they include plenty of clunkers. Very little
> editing is done before the goods are delivered. Why? It's part and
> parcel of getting  your money's worth. When you pay 50 grand for a
> two day shoot, you want to see the whole program. No one is perfect.
> Every photographer produces some bad shots.
> Paul
> On May 9, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
>>> Depends a lot on your purpose.
>> True. I believe we were talking about pro photogs not camera club
>> members.
>>
>>> A commercial photographer can over edit and lose sales because
>>> someone may
>>> have liked those photos.
>> True, but I would then contend that he hasn't got a good enough
>> feel for his
>> potential clients needs.
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Looking at Pictures
>>
>>
>>> Depends a lot on your purpose. A commercial photographer can over
>>> edit
>>> and lose sales because someone may have liked those photos. A fine
>>> art
>>> photographer needs to be more selective. A camera club member
>>> needs to
>>> make sure his photos look like everyone else's in the club. This
>>> list is
>>> more like a camera club than not, but is a bit more open minded.
>>>
>>> -graywolf
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom C wrote:
>>>>>> They've learned to largely relegate their emotions, prejudices,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> personal attachments to the back >seat when deciding which
>>>>>> images are
>>>>>> worthy of display and may enjoy potential success.
>>>>> I call that critical editing, IMO one of the best ways to
>>>>> improve my
>>>>> photography.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenneth Waller
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's my feelings.  One never becomes perfect at this but I find it
>>>> coming
>>>> full circle now. I can look throught the viewfinder and think,
>>>> "No that's
>>>> not it", or "Yes, maybe this it".
>>>>
>>>> To tell the truth, for almost any image I see displayed on this
>>>> or any
>>>> other
>>>> list that is widely panned, it's the fact that it did not receive
>>>> critical
>>>> editting by the photographer, or if an attempt was made, it still
>>>> slipped
>>>> through.
>>>>
>>>> In short it's very often the ability to say, "I took this picture
>>>> and it
>>>> sucks", instead of "This picture is good because I took it".
>>>>
>>>> Tom C.
>>>>
>>>> Tom C.
>>
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