Good printers, at least the Epson 6-ink ones (they use the same print engine as 
the R2/300's). The scanners in them are really only suitable for documents and 
prints, I wouldn't even bother trying to get decent neg/slide scans out of them.

-Adam


Glen Tortorella wrote:
> Thank you, Adam.  How do you feel about the all-in-one printers?  The  
> Canon PIXMA MP810 and Epson RX680 look pretty nice, but I am no expert.
> 
> Glen
> 
> On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
> 
>> For printer's you can't do better than the Epson R2x0 series. The  
>> higher-priced R3x0's are the same printers with more features  
>> (LCD's, DVD trays) but identical print quality. I've got the R320  
>> myself and the print quality is superb on good paper (I use Epson  
>> Premium Luster). Ink is always expensive until you get into the pro  
>> models (Where the tanks are expensive, but hold 10-100x as much ink).
>>
>> For scanners, I'd look at the Epson 4490 with a pair of  
>> Betterscanning.com 35mm ANR inserts, or a used Minolta Scan Dual  
>> III or IV and a copy of Vuescan (The minolta software doesn't work  
>> on 10.4, it will work on 10.3)
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>> Thank you, Adam.  I have a relatively recent iMac (running 10 point
>>> something), but the printer I own was given to me, and it is an older
>>> one (an inkjet) with mediocre poor print quality and expensive
>>> cartridges ($30 at Wal-Mart).  Thus, if I take your advice and go the
>>> scanner route, I would have to buy a scanner and printer.  What would
>>> about $200 or so (for each) buy?  I gather the new inkjets are a good
>>> deal better than those made five or ten years ago?  The older inkjets
>>> I have seen make digital photos look like a study in Seuratian
>>> pointilism and blue-is-green-black-is-purple color variance.
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>>
>>>> Get a scanner, and you can do the same with your film stuff. All my
>>>> film
>>>> work (and I'm only shooting film now) is scanned and printed with an
>>>> inkjet. It works pretty well for me.
>>>>
>>>> -Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>>> Good commentary, Godfrey.  Have you read Rebekah's remarks?  I tend
>>>>> to think that this is just another financial black hole.  On the
>>>>> surface, I think: great! I can just get a good deal on a DSLR,  
>>>>> buy a
>>>>> rreasonably-priced printer, hook it up to my IMac, and make as many
>>>>> prints as I wish, but then there are those "hidden" costs...ink,
>>>>> paper, software, and who knows what else...
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps this is why I have tried to remain ignorant of the DSLR
>>>>> world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Glen
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>>>>> While I have been resistant to digital for quite some time, I  
>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>> this article interesting.  The idea of getting a good "budget"  
>>>>>>> DSLR
>>>>>>> has crossed my mind, but I know so little about working within  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> DSLR format that I cannot get motivated to buy one.  I tend to  
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> prints.  Thus, I ask the supremely elementary question: how does
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> turn the zeros and ones stored in the DSLR's memory into prints?
>>>>>>> Would a computer and/or scanner be necessary (I do not have a
>>>>>>> scanner, but I do have an iMac), or can a camera shop or photo  
>>>>>>> lab
>>>>>>> supply the means to do this if one does not have a scanner?
>>>>>> You're asking these questions as if you knew nothing at all,  
>>>>>> which I
>>>>>> suspect isn't quite true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - No scanner is used when you're using a digital camera. Scanners
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> used to capture film and print images into digital images. A  
>>>>>> digital
>>>>>> camera produces digital images.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - You print a digital camera's photos the same way you print
>>>>>> anything
>>>>>> else: to a printer connected to either camera or computer, to an
>>>>>> online print service having moved the image files from camera to
>>>>>> computer, or by using a printer kiosk at a local store.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - If you have an iMac, you connect the camera to the computer with
>>>>>> its supplied cable. By default, iPhoto (supplied on every Apple
>>>>>> system by default) will start up and download all the  
>>>>>> photographs so
>>>>>> you can sort, show, and print them, to either a connected printer
>>>>>> via
>>>>>> a print service on the internet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, finally, how does the K100D compare to the Nikon...the  
>>>>>>> D40 or
>>>>>>> D50, I gather?
>>>>>> A matter of opinion. They all work well at the level of questions
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> are posing. If you already have Pentax lenses, it makes sense  
>>>>>> to buy
>>>>>> a Pentax DSLR: it will save you money. If you don't have Pentax
>>>>>> lenses, pick whichever one feels best in your hands and enjoy  
>>>>>> it ...
>>>>>> they all work better than the majority of owners can exploit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Godfrey
>>>>>>
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