..or a holler!! ;)

Jack
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> It's a personal competition, but you're not competing against others.
> For the accepted image count to be a score, everyone would have to
> make the same number of submissions. I recall one PDML member saying
> he was submitting between five and ten shots every day. That
> obviously will skew the curve. Which is fine, but that's why it's not
> a mine vs. yours competition. At least that's what I think. And in
> the end, none of it matters a hoot:-).
> Paul
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Well, Robb, I'm not surprised that it's being viewed as a
> competition.
> > If one chooses to consider the accepted image count as a 'score'
> > against which one is competing, then it's a competition. Your
> choice.
> > 
> > Jack
> > --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Jack Davis"
> > > Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery "Resignation"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > No way it could be stated any better, Frank.
> > > > Their not having anticipating a volume crunch is, however, hard
> to
> > > > imagine. Could be they consider "accepted artist" voting a
> handy
> > > > explanation..if needed.
> > > > When 'proven' laudable work is summarily declined, incentive
> wanes.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > >> <snip>
> > > >> > Actually I see any photographic competition as utterly
> > > pointless.
> > > >> <snip>
> > > >>
> > > >> I agree 100%!
> > > >>
> > > >> Funny thing is, I didn't see The Pentax Gallery as a
> competition. 
> > > I
> > > >> thought that as long as the photos met a minimum standard,
> they
> > > were
> > > >> in, and it would be a cool place from which to show photos.  I
> > > didn't
> > > >> see it as "grading" or "rating" photos, merely "accepting".
> > > >>
> > > >> I think it's that misconception that pisses me off most.  I
> didn't
> > > >> understand it as a competition at all, and clearly it is.  I
> know
> > > my
> > > >> photos aren't all pretty or pleasing or spectacular, so really
> > > they
> > > >> don't stand a chance against some that are in the gallery, but
> I
> > > have
> > > >> to admit to feeling a bit stung when I saw some rather banal,
> > > >> ordinary
> > > >> photos that got accepted, while mine all got the boot.  It may
> be
> > > >> that
> > > >> these other photos were accepted early, when there were far
> fewer
> > > >> voters, and the gallery "needed" photos, but it certainly
> points
> > > to a
> > > >> glaring inconsitency in the acceptance procedure, IMHO.
> > > >>
> > > >> Too bad, because had it been set up properly, it could have
> been
> > > fun.
> > > >> Having everything rejected isn't fun at all...
> > > 
> > > It's unfortunate that you believe that getting your photos to
> meet a
> > > minimum 
> > > standard isn't a competition. Any time someone puts up a bar that
> you
> > > need 
> > > to clear to get a reward, it is a competition.
> > > Just because you aren't competing with another person, doesn't
> mean
> > > you 
> > > aren't competing, it just means that the rules of the competition
> are
> > > such 
> > > that you are competing against a standard.
> > > OTOH, I really do think the people running the gallery totally
> > > buggered up 
> > > when they changed the acceptance procedure into a peer based
> > > popularity 
> > > contest.
> > > 
> > > William Robb 
> > > 
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