Actually it's just ingrained muscle memory, years of having to use vi 
while maintaining services on Unix machines means that the basic editing 
commands are pretty much automatic. vi is ideal for that use, it's 
lightweight and everything has it.

I still :wq on a regular basis in just about every other editor/word 
processor.

If you want punishment, use emacs. All the weight of Word, none of the 
Eye Candy.

-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:
> You are a glutton for punishment...
> 
> Adam Maas wrote:
>> I use vi
>>
>> -Adam
>> Always the odd one out.
>>
>>
>> Tom C wrote:
>>   
>>> It'll likely be a matter of attrition.  What % of people here use 
>>> WordPerfect as opposed to MS Word?
>>>
>>> I'll bet it's a 5/95 ratio if not higher.  Not too different from where 
>>> Pentax stands in the market, despite some recent relative success with the 
>>> K10D.
>>>
>>> Your suppositions are probably correct.  When I say done for, I'm not 
>>> predicting when... I'm saying that inevitable market forces will finally 
>>> take their toll, unless something changes quickly.
>>>
>>> Tom C.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:20:34 -0400
>>>>
>>>> Why? Pentax has never been a player in the Pro 35mm market. Not being
>>>> one now will make little difference.
>>>>
>>>> I expect to see them bring out a body above the K10D within the next 6
>>>> months, or a K10D 'successor' that is little more than the new Sony 12MP
>>>> sensor and a new shutter in the K10D body, perhaps with a higher
>>>> framerate. I don't expect to see a Pentax body above the $1300 or so
>>>> price point.
>>>>
>>>> -Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom C wrote:
>>>>       
>>>>> LOL.  You're not breaking it to me.  I was being kind. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Pentax has a slim chance yet to recover.  If they blow it in the next 6 
>>>>>         
>>>> - 12
>>>>       
>>>>> months though, I susect they are done for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom C.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>>>> From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>>>> To: "pdml" <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:59:17 -0400
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hate to break it to you, but in the USA, Pentax *is* a "2nd tier 
>>>>>>           
>>>> camera
>>>>       
>>>>>> company".  The company hasn't released a truly professional system 
>>>>>>           
>>>> camera
>>>>       
>>>>>> here (or anywhere, actually) since the LX.  The current high-end Pentax
>>>>>> lens
>>>>>> selection is miniscule compared to Canon and Nikon.  Pentax does not
>>>>>> provide
>>>>>> the kind of professional support that Canon and Nikon do at major 
>>>>>>           
>>>> sporting
>>>>       
>>>>>> events.  Pentax products lack presence on store shelves in the USA.  
>>>>>>           
>>>> Etc.
>>>>       
>>>>>> Tom C wrote:
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "John Sessoms"
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under 
>>>>>>>>               
>>>> NDA)
>>>>       
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> If memory serves the other two are an over-priced Nissan and an
>>>>>>>>> over-priced Honda.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> I guess that depends on what your personal comfort is worth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> William Robb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> My analogy was not about price, it was about image, prestige,
>>>>>>> perception in the market place.  Sure a FF DSLR will cost more
>>>>>>> than one with an APS-C size sensor.  If the Canons, Nikon's,
>>>>>>> Sony's of the world offer FF DSLR's, then Pentax must also.
>>>>>>> If they do not, they will relegate themselves to a 2nd
>>>>>>> tier camera company, and it doesn't matter who loves their
>>>>>>> camera, or how much it satisfies their current needs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom C.
>>>>>>>             
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