The design role of the 104 was never air to air combat. It was designed as a 
ground attack aircraft, not as an fighter/interceptor. It had no need for air 
to 
air combat capability as it could out run any fighter/interceptor in the world 
when it was introduced. Also It did not have the maneuverability a 
fighter/interceptor needed. Yes, I know some small countries used it as an 
fighter/interceptor, but that was because they were given the aircraft by, 
guess 
who, probably with the knowledge that if we ever needed to attack their country 
they would not be able to fight off our planes with it. The Air Force did not 
see much need for air to air fighters in that period; on the other hand the 
Navy 
was heavily into air to air fighters as their perceived role was to fight off 
air attacks on the fleets.


mike wilson wrote:
>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/10/18 Thu PM 08:14:36 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>> Subject: Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
>>
>> Well, Canada did buy a bunch of F-104's. Too bad ours were low-level nuke 
>> ground attack birds (Absolutely no air-to-air capability due to lacking a 
>> gun prior to 1972 and a dedicated ground-attack radar instead of the normal 
>> air-to-air set). We shoulda bought F-105 thuds instead.
>>
>> The CF-104 killed a lot of Canadians.  
> 
> Not to mention the Germans and Americans.  Should have gone for the EE 
> Lightning.
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