Ah, the Arrow.  The Wikipedia discussion page on supercruise that I quoted
previously also mentioned the Arrow,

"..... I suspect some Canadians are convinced the thing could fly at
supersonic speeds backwards underwater on one engine...--Robert Merkel
05:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC) 
"... and upside down. --BillCJ 19:51, 1 October 2006 (UTC"

regards,
Anthony Farr

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Adam Maas
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> Subject: Re: OT - Vulcan Bomber for the airheads
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> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:29 PM, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 09:54:04AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
> >  > Concorde was almost all gas tank and all low-drag go-fast, military
> >  > designs have to be much more flexible, and don't actually want to go
> >  > that fast except in sprints (which in some cases, like the B-1B, are
a
> >  > lot longer than a few minutes). Going supersonic is loud and obvious
> >  > and drastically cuts maneuverability and range. And the current F22
> >  > can 'supercruise', ie exceed mach 1 without lighting its burners.
> >
> >  Yes, it can.  But it also claims to be the *first* aircraft to be able
> >  to do this, which is apparently wrong - the English Electric Lightning
> >  was capable of this almost half a century ago.
> >
> >  --
> 
> As could the Iroqois-powered Avro Arrow, although that never entered
service.
> 
> 
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