I'm happy with my K20D, but that's because it meets my needs for the kind of 
photography I do. It hasn't failed me yet. Like you, I'm interested in the 
technical discussions, and I do stop in at dpreview from time to time to see 
what's up. But the discussions usually aren't very intelligent or factual. More 
often than not, I'd rather read the "digested" versions here. Pentax Forum is 
even worse, and the Pentax forum on photo.net is clueless. 

Yes, there are other cameras that could serve me somewhat better than my K10D 
and K20D, but they cost a heck of a lot more, and I need at least two bodies. 
And the Pentax lenses are still as good as anything out there. Better than 
most. There were some quality control problems with the DA*16-50, but the good 
samples are great. It's just a matter of analyzing your equipment when it's 
purchased. 

I'm on a new job now, three days a week. Photography is part of it. My boss 
shoots a Canon 1DS M3 and some medium format digital, which I can't describe 
accurately. I've turned some RAW files over to him that I shot at 1600 with the 
DA* 50-135. He was very impressed. " I can match that performance with the 
Canon," he said. "But I'm not sure I can better it. At least not for practical 
purposes."

Enough said.

Paul
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From: Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> People already happy with their equipment? Sounds good but I don't fully 
> agree...I would say resigned instead of happy.
> 
> The film SLR was an even more mature product, and here people keep wishing 
> the 
> advent of the MZ-1, the flagship, the perfect mach for the limiteds...that 
> never 
> showed up.
> So people here finally realized the limits of their favourite brand and that, 
> if 
> they want/need certain features (high fps count, fast AF, full frame), they 
> have 
> to move elsewhere (as many have already done).
> 
> The consequence is that thread about future features and/or complaints about 
> present ones are no longer popular, and newcomers that still have faith in 
> that 
> their brand will be able to fight in the premier league look for othe places 
> to 
> keep dreaming.
> 
> So this is a more paceful place where people who knew each other thanks to 
> their 
> (current or past) relation with Pentax now share their pictures and have a 
> good 
> time talking about things related (or not) to photography. Yes, sometimes 
> there 
> is some equipment chat, but it is not the majority anymore.
> 
> The 'negative' side is that the list may be seen as a 'closed' group of 
> friends, 
> with lots of private jokes and not very prone to orientate and convince new 
> pentaxians that they have made the right choice (I would say that there are 
> far 
> less introductions and 'novice' questions that we used to have). And it is a 
> pitty since I don't think that this is true at all but that people here is 
> really helpful.
> 
> Anyway, as I said before, there are other places to look for 
> advice/information 
> about Pentax nowadays...it is just that I have been reading the list for so 
> many 
> years that it is hard to admit that is is getting less interesting for me 
> lately...(but I keep reading...;-) )
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jaume in their yearly eloquent day
> 
> ----- Mensaje original ----
> De: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
> Enviado: miércoles, 28 de mayo, 2008 20:12:13
> Asunto: Re: List focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels)
> 
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:46:24AM -0700, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
> > >>BTW, Paul, this link is an example of why it is worth looking 
> > occasionally at dpreview, despite the admitted annoyances of that site. 
> > News such as this shows up much earlier there than it does here.
> > 
> > Today I was just thinking that this list has somehow shifted its focus 
> > since 
> the digital era took over.
> > Before there were few places to talk about Pentax equipment, so this was a 
> main topic. But the digital brought also more 'competitors' and people here 
> seems a bot bored of too technical (and lots of times closer to computers 
> rather 
> than photography)  so this kind of threads are not as popular anymore.
> > So we find much more PESOs, GMFs, OTs, so the list is more about people 
> talking on photography and showing what they do, that normally own (or used 
> to) 
> Pentax equipment.
> > 
> > No more bloody fights (except when the magic words arise: 'aperture 
> simulator') but also no more guru's anticipating future developments...that's 
> why people has to look elsewhere to find it and, eventually, report it here 
> in 
> case someone is still interested.
> 
> That's because digital SLRs are, by now, a mature technology.
> Pentax addressed most of the complaints about the *ist-D in
> the K10D, and polished off a few more with the K20D.  Apart
> from the "full-frame" sensor (non-)issue, there's not a lot
> wrong with the K20D for almost everybody almost all the time.
> The advent of the SDM lenses removed another potential source
> of complaints, too.
> 
> So while the K20D isn't perfect, it will do for now.  Pentax
> have intimated they are working on a model beyond the K20D,
> so there's room for speculating on future developments (will
> it have better build quality, a faster frame rate, faster AF,
> etc., etc.).  But most people don't care, because what they
> can get now is more than good enough to be useful.
> 
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