Its great entertainment.  Have at it............

Otiose Right

Anthony Far wrote:

> My profound apologies to list members who are sick and tired of this OT
> debate.  My country was disparaged on the list so I ~insist~ upon
> defending it's honour on the list.  If the NRA flunkies had made this a
> private debate or had preferably chosen to SHUT THE F*** UP about their
> right to bear arms.  It may be pertinent to USA but as this is an
> international list it is not germaine to any topic we care to entertain
> ourselves with, thank you very much.
>
> My rebuttal of Bob's trash is in-line, below.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > #1. The only real sources acceptable for proof or disproof are source
> data
> > (by you or me).
> >
>
> What do you mean?  If you mean yours or my original research then
> there's no point in debating any issue with you, because you have
> unilaterally banned all external statistics.  Was the souce data for
> your later extrapolated numbers your personal source data?  I doubt it
> but you hypocrited yourself by using them.  It sounds more like an NRA
> ploy to exclude statistics that embarrass them and point out their
> falsity.  Anyway, I'll trust my country's Bureau of Crime Statistics
> (which is an administrative body not part of any political organization)
> infinitely more than I would trust USA's National Rifle Association
> (which is a self-interested lobby group)
>
> > #3. Political sources are most often more biased than lobby groups
> (either
> > way).
> >
>
> The Bureau of Crime Statistics is ~not~ a political group, see above.
>
> > #4. a. The issue is ....... (extrapolations and rationalisations
> snipped)
>
> I'll believe the ~reliable~ statistics from Australia's BCS, thanks.
> The NRA has an agenda to promote private ownership of needlessly
> powerful weapons.  They have ~proven~ their capacity to produce false
> "facts" in support of their case.  If you wish to believe them then do
> so, you are free and it is your right.  I am also free and have
> extremely wide freedoms, 'though the NRA would tell you otherwise.
> Australia ~is not~ a police state even if the NRA has used that term to
> describe us (more lies).
>
> Regards,
> Anthony Farr
>
> PS: Please send any reply/response via private e-mail, that way only I
> will need to bin it, rather than every list-member.  More importantly,
> that way my country will not be futher publicly insulted by lies.
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