My profound apologies to list members who are sick and tired of this OT debate. My country was disparaged on the list so I ~insist~ upon defending it's honour on the list. If the NRA flunkies had made this a private debate or had preferably chosen to SHUT THE F*** UP about their right to bear arms. It may be pertinent to USA but as this is an international list it is not germaine to any topic we care to entertain ourselves with, thank you very much.
My rebuttal of Bob's trash is in-line, below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > #1. The only real sources acceptable for proof or disproof are source data > (by you or me). > What do you mean? If you mean yours or my original research then there's no point in debating any issue with you, because you have unilaterally banned all external statistics. Was the souce data for your later extrapolated numbers your personal source data? I doubt it but you hypocrited yourself by using them. It sounds more like an NRA ploy to exclude statistics that embarrass them and point out their falsity. Anyway, I'll trust my country's Bureau of Crime Statistics (which is an administrative body not part of any political organization) infinitely more than I would trust USA's National Rifle Association (which is a self-interested lobby group) > #3. Political sources are most often more biased than lobby groups (either > way). > The Bureau of Crime Statistics is ~not~ a political group, see above. > #4. a. The issue is ....... (extrapolations and rationalisations snipped) I'll believe the ~reliable~ statistics from Australia's BCS, thanks. The NRA has an agenda to promote private ownership of needlessly powerful weapons. They have ~proven~ their capacity to produce false "facts" in support of their case. If you wish to believe them then do so, you are free and it is your right. I am also free and have extremely wide freedoms, 'though the NRA would tell you otherwise. Australia ~is not~ a police state even if the NRA has used that term to describe us (more lies). Regards, Anthony Farr PS: Please send any reply/response via private e-mail, that way only I will need to bin it, rather than every list-member. More importantly, that way my country will not be futher publicly insulted by lies. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .