Bob, Another red herring! Ths Krupp shot is obviously heavily staged as a portrait with the subjects cooperation. Is it a character study? Perhaps the subject and photographer thought so, maybe even the general public in 1962. Today in 2009, I see a pretty picture of an older executive. Regards, Bob S.
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Bob W <p...@web-options.com> wrote: > That's a very interesting difference in how we use the words. So, to give an > example, you would not consider Arnold Newman's photograph of Krupp to be a > portrait? If so, it goes very strongly against the way the word is > understood in British English at the very least. > > I have never noticed such a distinction in American or Canadian writing > about photography. > > You can see Newman's picture of Krupp on the PDN page for Newman > (http://www.pdngallery.com/legends/newman/). Under Portraits! ;o) > > Bob > > >> >> Around here, the meaning of portrait and character study are much >> more like Bill has said. Perhaps it has meaning based on the intent. >> In a character study, one is trying to bring out something more about >> the person than just the exterior view. In a portrait one is trying >> to show a pleasing view of the exterior. >> >> Perhaps another way to think of it is that portraits are regularly >> asked for and paid for by the subject. Character studies may not be. >> I'm sure in different parts of the world, there is a difference of >> meaning of these words. And, at times, even with different meanings, >> a single photograph could show both. One of the easiest tests of the >> portrait success is if the subject is happy with the image. >> >> So Jostein, has the subject seen this image and what did he think? >> >> -- >> Bruce >> >> >> Friday, April 10, 2009, 4:23:39 AM, you wrote: >> >> >> 2009/4/9 William Robb <war...@gmail.com>: >> >> > Had you called it a character study, then I would have commented >> >> > differently. You called it a portrait, and that had a great >> >> deal to do with >> >> > my response to it. >> >> >> >> hmm... >> >> That's interesting. Didn't cross my mind that the word "portrait" >> >> primed people that much. Or maybe that my understanding of >> the word is >> >> that deviant... :-) >> >> >> >> Another lesson learned, hopefully. >> >> >> >> >snip< >> >> BW> I always think of 'character study' and 'portrait' as >> synonymous. To me the >> BW> whole point of a portrait is to reveal something of the >> person's character >> BW> to the viewer. Otherwise it's just a mug shot, or a study >> in texture or >> BW> form. >> >> BW> Bob >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly >> above and follow the directions. >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
