Sounds good. I've noticed that the MTF choice for the DA8 50-135 is f4 at shorter focal lengths as well. It goes to 6.7 at the longest focal lengths.
Paul
On May 11, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Margus Männik wrote:

Absolutely,
and this is probably why it shows so good results right from wide open (at APS-C bodies).

One more interesting fact. As you may know, there is a MTF sub- program at K10D and K20D (actually the setting have been there since FA lenses and Z/PZ bodies appeared - for example Z-1p has it). In this mode camera tries to use the "sweetest" aperture range of attached lens. I do use it quite often as my normal shooting mode and simply adjust aperture if I don't like what camera likes (Hyper Program). Usually it means that camera is trying to keep the aperture somewhere between f/5.6... f/8 or so, but you never see any lens used wide open - even if there's no light at all. Now, when I got DA*60-250 I was really surprised to notice, that camera quite often decided to use f/4. I made a simple test and found out, that in low(er) light situations (indoor at sunny day is enough) K20D MTF program really chooses f/4 from 60-135mm and switches to f/5...f/5.6 at longer focal lengths. Z-1p preferred f/5.6 through the whole zoom range. Isn't it a clear message from Pentax optical engineers - the lens is really good enough to be used (at APS-C bodies) wide open?

BR, Margus
(and sorry for my muddy english)


Paul Stenquist wrote:
So that would suggest that perhaps the DA 60-250 was designed to be used with both formats. That would certainly be a plus.
Paul
On May 11, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Margus Männik wrote:

Unfortunately DA*50-135 doesn't fit FF. Wide open you can see dark corners clearly at 50mm, vignette achieves the maximum at 70mm and then reduces to mild falloff after 90mm (but you can still see it at 135mm). Stopping down makes it worse and at small apertures you can clearly see a round "imaging area" at all focal lengths.

BR, Margus


Paul Stenquist wrote:
True enough. I haven't tried my DA* 50-135 on full frame, but I expect the results would be similar. I know the DA 50-200 covers full frame. But if you believe Ned and the Pentax website, none of these lenses were designed for full-frame use. As you point out, the 60-250 may be different in that regard. Or not. Some of those early roadmaps were full of confusing nomenclature.
Paul
On May 11, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:

Well, there you have it. Only minor vignetting. Would that increase or
decrease at a smaller aperture?

It's probably falloff, rather than vignetting, and it would improve at
smaller apertures.

In any case, it's probably useable on full frame, although I would
think it's optimized for APS-C.

Since it was originally designated the "D-FA 60-250" I expect it was designed for full-frame (they probably changed the designation to DA when they decided to eliminate the aperture ring), but since virtually all lenses show some light falloff at wide apertures and are sharper
in the center than the corners, any lens could be considered
"optimized for APS-C" :)



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