John,
Didn't the copywrite laws pre-date the music industry?
How can they be caused by the music industry?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 1:47 PM, John Sessoms<jsessoms...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> From: "William Robb"
>>
>> From: "John Sessoms"
>> Subject: Re: OT: Down the memory hole ...
>>
>>
>>> >
>>> > I remember a long argument somewhere here or in usenet about what my >
>>> > responsibility was at the photolab regarding customers who came in to 
>>> > make >
>>> > copies of copyrighted images. Under the DMCA, it's the equipment owner >
>>> > who's financially liable for any infringement. The penalties are quite >
>>> > draconian.
>>> >
>>> > I suggested anyone who shoots weddings and provides the couple with a
>>> > CD > of the images to print their own should include a copyright release.
>>> >
>>> > I was roundly condemned for being a "bad cop", and informed it was not
>>> > my > job to "enforce bad laws".
>>> >
>>
>> Bad law or not, if you don't enforce it, you will, ultimately, take a hit
>> for it.
>> Interestingly, and I believe I've mentioned this before, a lot of the
>> problems you guys have with copyright isn't the DMCA, it's who you grant
>> ownership to.
>> It's ludicrous that a photographer can claim ownership of something he was
>> hired to make, and paid, often very expensively, in full for making. It's
>> like Joe Airwrench claiming ownership of my truck because he bolted the
>> driver's side front wheel onto it.
>
> It's a stupid law, bought and paid for by the record companies and movie
> studios.
>
> The whole purpose of assigning liability for copyright infringement to the
> owner of the equipment was so they could put the factories that produce
> bootleg CDs/DVDs out of business. The way it's written, they can collect 1/2
> million dollars for each instance of infringement, where every individual
> CD/DVD stamped out was a separate instance.
>
> Except that the factories that stamp out the pirate CDs/DVDs aren't located
> in the good ol' U. S. of A. and the DMCA can't be enforced against them.
>
> The unintended consequence is that the "owner" of the mini-lab that has a
> scanner or digital print from CD facility is also liable, where each
> individual print is an separate instance of infringement. I say "unintended"
> because you know damn well the record companies & movie studios don't give a
> damn about the individual photographer's rights. They'll rip you off in a
> heartbeat and claim "fair use" exemption if you attempt to claim
> compensation from them.
>
> But, because the mini-lab is owned by a corporation, the corporation have
> "policies" that direct the operator not to print anything that looks like it
> might place the corporation at risk. The corporation doesn't actually give a
> damn if you print them or not; the policy is simply there so they can push
> the liability off onto you as the lab operator if any photographer DOES
> object to having his copyrighted images printed.
>
> Of course, the flip side is that if you DO follow the CORPORATE POLICY
> regarding copyright and the customer makes a fuss, you're subject to
> disciplinary action because you're guilty of bad customer service.
>
> But to take your "Joe Airwrench" analogy - as a lab operator, I'm in the
> position of crossing with the light, in the crosswalk, i.e. obeying the law,
> when the truck in question is about to run over me.
>
> I was told repeatedly that, because "Joe Airwrench's" ownership claim is
> bogus, I have no right to dodge the speeding truck.
>
> Obviously, that sticks in my craw.
>
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