They do as a concept, but the current set of laws in the US, which are far more restrictive than they were 30-40 years ago, were passed after heavy lobbying by the RIAA and MPAA (as well as Disney) and for years Sonny Bono was the prime mover in congress behind the ridiculous extensions to copyright terms.
-Adam On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Bob Sullivan<rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote: > John, > Didn't the copywrite laws pre-date the music industry? > How can they be caused by the music industry? > Regards, Bob S. > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 1:47 PM, John Sessoms<jsessoms...@nc.rr.com> wrote: >> From: "William Robb" >>> >>> From: "John Sessoms" >>> Subject: Re: OT: Down the memory hole ... >>> >>> >>>> > >>>> > I remember a long argument somewhere here or in usenet about what my > >>>> > responsibility was at the photolab regarding customers who came in to >>>> > make > >>>> > copies of copyrighted images. Under the DMCA, it's the equipment owner > >>>> > who's financially liable for any infringement. The penalties are quite > >>>> > draconian. >>>> > >>>> > I suggested anyone who shoots weddings and provides the couple with a >>>> > CD > of the images to print their own should include a copyright release. >>>> > >>>> > I was roundly condemned for being a "bad cop", and informed it was not >>>> > my > job to "enforce bad laws". >>>> > >>> >>> Bad law or not, if you don't enforce it, you will, ultimately, take a hit >>> for it. >>> Interestingly, and I believe I've mentioned this before, a lot of the >>> problems you guys have with copyright isn't the DMCA, it's who you grant >>> ownership to. >>> It's ludicrous that a photographer can claim ownership of something he was >>> hired to make, and paid, often very expensively, in full for making. It's >>> like Joe Airwrench claiming ownership of my truck because he bolted the >>> driver's side front wheel onto it. >> >> It's a stupid law, bought and paid for by the record companies and movie >> studios. >> >> The whole purpose of assigning liability for copyright infringement to the >> owner of the equipment was so they could put the factories that produce >> bootleg CDs/DVDs out of business. The way it's written, they can collect 1/2 >> million dollars for each instance of infringement, where every individual >> CD/DVD stamped out was a separate instance. >> >> Except that the factories that stamp out the pirate CDs/DVDs aren't located >> in the good ol' U. S. of A. and the DMCA can't be enforced against them. >> >> The unintended consequence is that the "owner" of the mini-lab that has a >> scanner or digital print from CD facility is also liable, where each >> individual print is an separate instance of infringement. I say "unintended" >> because you know damn well the record companies & movie studios don't give a >> damn about the individual photographer's rights. They'll rip you off in a >> heartbeat and claim "fair use" exemption if you attempt to claim >> compensation from them. >> >> But, because the mini-lab is owned by a corporation, the corporation have >> "policies" that direct the operator not to print anything that looks like it >> might place the corporation at risk. The corporation doesn't actually give a >> damn if you print them or not; the policy is simply there so they can push >> the liability off onto you as the lab operator if any photographer DOES >> object to having his copyrighted images printed. >> >> Of course, the flip side is that if you DO follow the CORPORATE POLICY >> regarding copyright and the customer makes a fuss, you're subject to >> disciplinary action because you're guilty of bad customer service. >> >> But to take your "Joe Airwrench" analogy - as a lab operator, I'm in the >> position of crossing with the light, in the crosswalk, i.e. obeying the law, >> when the truck in question is about to run over me. >> >> I was told repeatedly that, because "Joe Airwrench's" ownership claim is >> bogus, I have no right to dodge the speeding truck. >> >> Obviously, that sticks in my craw. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
