Shel,

Very well put.  The meter is just a tool.  When understood and used
properly, it can help you produce good results.  When misunderstood or
used poorly, it will be fooled quite often.


Bruce



Friday, January 11, 2002, 9:29:10 AM, you wrote:

SB> Pal, you are quite mistaken.  Leaving the camera on automatic can cause
SB> exposure problems.  Here's one example taken from a commentary by Kirk
SB> Tuck, in which he describes metering a scene in which the light doesn't
SB> change:

SB>         When I meter my hand it meters the light falling on it and 
SB>         that light doesn't change during the shoot. When I shoot 
SB>         with the Leica I leave the exposure alone and since there 
SB>         is no option for auto-exposure I don't have the temptation 
SB>         to use it. When I used the F5 I was always lured by the siren 
SB>         call of advertising onto the rocks of "multi-matrix super 
SB>         integrated" automation. When I pointed the camera at the 
SB>         doctor's white coat the camera tried to compensate, kinda. 
SB>         When the camera pointed at the dark sweater of a patient 
SB>         the camera tried to compensate, kinda. According to my lab, 
SB>         this "kinda" automatic compensation means that most rolls of
SB>         pro film are all over the map compared with film received 
SB>         ten years ago.

SB> Further, getting LX specific, the LX meter is bottom center weighted
SB> (http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/lx/lx_pat.html) which
SB> means that, if you turn the camera from horizontal to vertical to shoot
SB> the same scene in the same lighting, the camera may change the exposure
SB> due to the different relationship of dark to light elements in the
SB> scene. 

SB> If one relies solely on automation for metering, rather than
SB> interpreting the scene and using one's brain to set the final exposure,
SB> there is a very good chance that the exposure will be off by some
SB> degree.  JCO is right.  Without involvement by the photographer a meter
SB> can be a pretty stupid thing, and staunch reliance on meter readings -
SB> regardless of what meter or what type of meter - is sometimes a very
SB> foolish approach.

SB> Tell me something - if the LX meter is so perfect, why do people
SB> continue to bracket their exposures?


SB> Pål Audun Jensen wrote:
>> 
>> JCO wrote:
>> 
>> >In camera meters are very stupid to the point that a simple "guess"
>> >can easily be more accurate than even an LX with certain subjects.
>> 
>> Certainly not. The LX meter and any other correctly calibrated meter is
>> right 100% of the time.
>> 
>> >Very true to the point that in order to compensate for the
>> >in cameras meter's "dumbness" you end up guessing anyway.
>> >Thats why I use sunny f16 or an incident meter and manual
>> >exposure. It yeilds more consistant results than an in camera
>> >meter does.
>> 
>> Whatever meter you use, consistent results are dependent whether or not the
>> photographer knows what he wants and know how to use the meter. All meters
>> are equal in this regard independent on whether the meter is physically
>> located in a camera body or not.
>> The advantage of meters like in the LX is that you can set exposure more
>> accurate than 1/3 of a stop something that's impossible to do consistently
>> with any hand-held meter.
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