Thank You Graydon!
I've always felt that the vegans & vegitarians were looking down on us
meat eaters.
They were lording over us there superiority because they didn't harm animals.
I see now from a total system perspective that's a crock of bull shit.
Regards, Bob S.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Graydon <o...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 08:14:48AM -0500, frank theriault scripsit:
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Joseph McAllister <pentax...@mac.com> wrote:
>> > You realize, don't you, if we all went vegan to "save the animals", there
>> > would not be enough flora food on the earth to feed us, and we'd go back to
>> > killing animals for food, if they hadn't already all been killed to turn
>> > their grazing land into farmland.
>>
>> It may sound like I'm splitting hairs here, but I'm not vegan to "save
>> the animals", I'm vegan because I don't want to cause harm to or
>> exploit animals.
>>
>> There's a difference.
>
> Not really, no.  Farming isn't as ecologically destructive as strip
> mining, tailings ponds, or paving, but whether you're eating beef or
> soybeans, whatever used to live where the farm that grew them now is
> doesn't live there any more.
>
> This is a bit of a pet peeve of mine; farming *of any kind* takes over a
> big chunk of ecosystem and gets rid of a lot of animals.  You can argue
> that it's less direct when you're eating soybeans instead, but you can't
> get out of the trophic web no matter what you do, what with being made
> out of meat and all.
>
> -- Graydon
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