LOL... I haven't followed this thread up to now...
One of my favorite sayings: "I didn't make it to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian". :-) What about all those bad animals that are not vegetarians themselves? The argument is ridiculous. In the end, we're talking about molecules. I have nothing against vegetarians and they have the perfect right to choose what they eat, and so does every one else. Tom On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank You Graydon! > I've always felt that the vegans & vegitarians were looking down on us > meat eaters. > They were lording over us there superiority because they didn't harm animals. > I see now from a total system perspective that's a crock of bull shit. > Regards, Bob S. > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Graydon <o...@uniserve.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 08:14:48AM -0500, frank theriault scripsit: >>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Joseph McAllister <pentax...@mac.com> >>> wrote: >>> > You realize, don't you, if we all went vegan to "save the animals", there >>> > would not be enough flora food on the earth to feed us, and we'd go back >>> > to >>> > killing animals for food, if they hadn't already all been killed to turn >>> > their grazing land into farmland. >>> >>> It may sound like I'm splitting hairs here, but I'm not vegan to "save >>> the animals", I'm vegan because I don't want to cause harm to or >>> exploit animals. >>> >>> There's a difference. >> >> Not really, no. Farming isn't as ecologically destructive as strip >> mining, tailings ponds, or paving, but whether you're eating beef or >> soybeans, whatever used to live where the farm that grew them now is >> doesn't live there any more. >> >> This is a bit of a pet peeve of mine; farming *of any kind* takes over a >> big chunk of ecosystem and gets rid of a lot of animals. You can argue >> that it's less direct when you're eating soybeans instead, but you can't >> get out of the trophic web no matter what you do, what with being made >> out of meat and all. >> >> -- Graydon >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.