> On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
> 
> As I mentioned earlier we have laws and local government to manage
> these sorts of issue but the inference that keeping clothes off lines
> or other ridiculous limitations will somehow preserve the value of
> real estate is pure bunk. We have one of the most robust and least
> affordable real estate markets here and clothes on lines in the
> majority of back-yards. Every second back-yard in Sydney features a
> rotary clothes line such as a Hills hoist (easy to see using Google
> Earth)

You are letting facts (actual impact on real estate value) confuse you. The 
issue is one of perception. In the early days of Americans' move from the 
Cities to the Suburbs,  part of the incentive was to appear to be "higher 
class". Ruffians and naer-do-wells let their grass grow too long, paint their 
houses garish colors, cannot afford modern conveniences like electric dryers 
and thus  hang their clothes out to dry, cannot afford a proper mechanic and 
thus do car repair in their drive, etc. The way to avoid ruffians and 
naer-do-wells therefore obviously is to ban signs of such behavior. At least 
that way you avoid the appearance of being around such people. In one of the 
early (1920's) developments in the Kansas City area, the developer objected to 
the look of garages with open doors, and he wrote a prohibition on open doors 
into the covenants. And on Sundays he and his family would go for a drive, 
checking for open doors along the way. Here in the Wild West, the attitude is 
that I can do whatever I want, and everyone else had better do what I want as 
well. He with the fastest gun or biggest wallet wins. 

As I mentioned, I live in an old 1837 farmhouse not at all like my neighbors. I 
didn't have much choice about its location - if I wanted the house, I accepted 
the Home's Association covenants. However, the Association mows and otherwise 
takes care of all lawns. My 80,000 sq. ft. of lawn is mowed as often as my 
neighbors' 400 sq. ft. areas, and I pay the same per-household dues that they 
do. And I have the use of the pool, the tennis courts, and other amenities. It 
balances out.

Several have mentioned putting liens on property as a way of enforcing 
Association rules. We regularly do that in cases of people who don't pay their 
Association dues. 5-10 years later, when they sell or the property is 
foreclosed, we may receive what is due if there is any left after the mortgage 
holder is paid. It is not a very efficient enforcement mechanism.

stan


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