But how do you prove ones suitability to raise kids? I could study for and sit all the theoretical exams to fly a 747. That wouldn't qualify me as a pilot.
On 15/03/2010, Tanya Love <tanyal...@bigpond.com> wrote: > Weeell, my proposal is not to discriminate against "inferior" socio-economic > classes. It should be an across the board, world-wide practice. EVERY > person who wishes to have children should be able to prove their ability to > parent. There are many, and often the WORSE cases of child abuse/neglect > are inflicted by highly educate, affluent individuals who simply have > sociopathic tendencies or not innate morals or ethics. > > Recently, my husband, who works at the biggest hospital in our city, worked > in theatre assisting the c-section delivery of a baby to a couple who had > been happily married for 9 years. They were professional people (he was a > lawyer and her an accountant), and in their early forties. They drove a > BMW. > > The baby was born and my husband asked the father if he would like him to > take a photo. He replied with a stern, "No way!". The mother refused to > hold the baby. They wheeled her into recovery, and were forced to take the > baby to the nursery (the father usually takes the baby and waits in the ward > for the mum to be wheeled down). > > The couple checked themselves out of the hospital the next day, despite > attempts to keep them there. They then disappeared off the face of the > earth. Many attempts were made to contact them by hospital staff. Offers > of assistance and counselling and follow up support were made. All were > ignored. Their little girl was abandoned and left to the mercy of the > welfare system. > > This, by EDUCATED, successful people. A married COUPLE. No drug abuse or > addiction. Completely and absolutely able to provide financially for the > child. She was a healthy little baby, no disabilities, no illness. She > simply was too much of an inconvenience to them. > > The hospital staff are almost certain that had her own health not been at > grave risk (she was bought to hospital by ambulance and the c-section was an > emergency procedure), that little girl most probably would have ended up in > rubbish tip wrapped in a plastic bag. Now, instead, she gets the joy of a > life in the welfare system, and a whole life of knowledge that she was so > unwanted that her parents who had every resource in the world to raise her, > simply couldn't be bothered doing it. Such a burden to carry and no fault > of her own. She was a beautiful little girl, and the instant she emerged > into this world, her life was layed out for her by these people who have no > ounce of a conscience in their bodies. > > They *could* have afforded a termination or arranged adoption. BUT, their > egos wouldn't allow it. They said that they couldn't have the time off work > that was required for the mother to have the termination, they thought it > better to wait it out and then dump the baby and run. None of their family, > their friends or work colleagues knew that she was pregnant. She was > conveniently overweight and hid the pregnancy easily. > > Likewise, I know many mothers who live in underprivileged and low > socio-economic situations that ADORE their children and do everything they > can to raise stable, secure, loved children. If it has to be the case, > welfare systems can provide meals, clothing and a roof over the heads of > families in need, but love, education and nurturing is a completely > different kettle of fish and are skills that can be taught and learned. > > You are correct - there is no way to tell who will or will not neglect or > abuse their children. But taking away the ability for people to conceive > until they are able to at least undertake education and complete mental > assessments to demonstrate that they can handle the demands that parenting > throws at them, should be the bare minimum requirement. > > As for people who have been allowed to procreate then turning out to be > abusers - well, I am sure that that would happen. But, I am just as > certain that the numbers would be GREATLY reduced compared to current > statistics, and that is the main thing that concerns me - to end the > suffering of as many children as possible. > > Of course, it is not cut and dry, and of course it would never happen, but I > wish that it would. So much would rely on the systems put in place and > making sure that the "assessment" is reasonable and measurable and > non-discriminatory in nature, but wow, the suffering that it could > potentially prevent. > > Tan. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John > Sessoms > Sent: Monday, 15 March 2010 9:52 AM > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: RE: question for the brits American to English translation > > From: "Tanya Love" >> I totally get your point, but perhaps if you were attending all of the >> homes and studying the cases that I've been studying for the past two >> years, you may think otherwise. > > I understand where you're coming from, but your proposed solution doesn't > remedy the problem. I'm sorry about what happened to the children, but > forced sterilization of the inferior socio-economic classes won't prevent > child neglect and abuse. > > How do you tell in advance that someone will neglect or abuse their > children? Who gets to make the determination that someone is unfit to be > allowed to even have children? > > And once you put your solution in place, what are you going to do when the > people you've deemed fit to procreate turn out to be abusers as bad or worse > than the poor people you condemned to childlessness? > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4944 (20100314) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
