Went and pulled out my K10 for comparison. Keep in mind that there is a win/loss scenario. You don't just lose with the K-x and don't just gain. You have to see where the tradeoffs are. Keeping in mind that the K10 is older, there is more gain for the K-x simply due to technology marching on.
So - losses -------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 wheel instead of two - practically only a big issue for manual mode usage. This is perhaps the overall biggest loss. If you are one who sets it to manual mode and then meters and spins both dials to control aperture and shutter or uses HyperManual by spinning one dial for aperture/shutter (based on setting in camera) and then pressing green button and then maybe doing touchup changes - the K-x is a bit clumsier. The thumb wheel controls the shutter. The button for compensation is right near the shutter button. Since in manual compensation doesn't do anything, holding that button while spinning thumb dial changes aperture. The button is in the right, natural place to make this relatively painless, so I don't think it is a huge deal, but it is less good, nonetheless. No battery grip - I am a fan of vertical grips, so this is bothersome to me. I just spent last Saturday shooting 4000 shots of gymnastics so the lack of grip is liveable, but I would rather have it. AA batteries - I find the lithium packs much easier to manage than the AA's. Longer life and less hassle from a charging perspective. But, it is not that bad - I was able to get about 1000 shots per set of AA's on the K-x using AF-C most of the time. No visible indicator in the finder as to which sensor is being used for focusing. If you switch around all the time, this could be bothersome. It shows you on the back panel all the time, but if you are one who changes the active sensor while the camera is held up to your eye, it is a problem. Differences - I can't really say a gain or loss here - more a preference as to which is better. ------------------------------------------------------------------- K10 is bigger and heavier - surface is grippier, but it needs to be because it is larger to hold. I find the K-x slides into my hand more fully and naturally. Buttons and dials - there are more dedicated buttons on the K10, but I didn't find it to be all that much different - there are a few settings on the K-x that are faster to do than on the K10, so I think it sort of balances out. On either camera there may be some specific feature you change all the time, so one or the other could be better to you. For me, it was pretty much a wash. Gains - this is where the K-x is an improvement --------------------------------------------------------------------- High ISO - there is a world of difference between the K10 and the K-x. Most of the discussion you have been seeing is between the K20/K7 vs the K-x. The K10 is a step down from the K20/K7 so the gap is even larger when compared to the K-x. AWB - I have found this to be much more accurate than the K10. Matrix metering - I have found this to be more reliable than the K10 AF - big improvements here also. Besides being faster and more accurate, it does a better job of tracking. There is also a very usable setting where the inner cluster of sensors are used together to focus with. This works much better and faster than the Auto select on the K10. jpg rendering engine - good improvement here as well. I have pretty much been a raw shooter since my early *istD days, but when you use the aforementioned pluses with the jpg engine, I have had pretty good luck. I haven't really dealt with raw yet and I have gone through about 5k shots on the body. In camera HDR - acts just like bracket shooting. Turn it on, set it to normal or strong and press the shutter - 3 shots and taken and then the camera blends them for you. You should be using a tripod, but it is pretty cool. I do want to go back to the redwoods and try some shots. 5fps - shoots much faster and is ready for next shot faster than the K10 Conclusion -------------------------------------------------------------------- Having shot a fair bit with the K-x, I find it to be a great camera, especially at the price - If I had to choose between the K10 and K-x, I would easily choose the K-x. I'm sure there are more differences between the two, but each of us notices certain things pertaining to our usage and style. If I didn't bring it up, it probably is about a wash between the bodies. My two oldest daughters prefer the K-x over the K10 and K20 - it fits their style of shooting better - especially the low light. And BTW, I like the white body color. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, March 15, 2010, 5:23:37 AM, you wrote: DJB> What do i loose with the K-x, vrs the K10D, is there only 1 thumb wheel, etc DJB> dave DJB> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:20 AM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Has any one found a K-x, new, with out a kit lens. I have looked at >> Henrys, Visteck and McBains and they all sell it for $699 with the >> 18-55 kit. >> >> I'm shooting my nephews wedding in July and i have talked to them >> about what they want. They are looking for minimul flash, and as much >> natural light as possible. I'm now toying with the idea of getting the >> K-x to use in any building and reception hall shots. I'm very >> impressed with the high ISO shots form Bruce, Larry and Adam, that i >> have seen so far. >> I was planning on getting some of those umbrella adaptors that go on >> light stands and a radio trigger for this event, from link-delight, >> but i may just get them anyway to have. Its not a lot of money for >> them. >> >> Dave >> >> >> -- >> Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. >> www.caughtinmotion.com >> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >> York Region, Ontario, Canada >> DJB> -- DJB> Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. DJB> www.caughtinmotion.com DJB> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ DJB> York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.