From: "William Robb"
From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: Re: A Crazy Idea



> And that's been my point all along. The photographer is more important > than the equipment. Equipment is important, but not as important as the > photographer. Equipment is only as good as the photographer who uses it.
>
> A poor photographer is still a poor photographer no matter how much he > spends on gear. Expensive equipment merely gives the poor photographer the > means to create high resolution lousy images.

Or, to be more accurate, better technical quality images that are wanting in terms of composition.

Really John, do you think that an Adams could have churned out his esthetically stunning landscapes from the American southwest with a pocket 110 camera?

No, what I think is that you are being intentionally obtuse; deliberately refusing to see the point.

Given your example of using a pocket 110 camera, I believe Ansel Adams would have captured better images than say yourself or Ken Rockwell.

OTOH, given Ansel Adams equipment, including his darkroom, From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: Re: A Crazy Idea



> > And that's been my point all along. The photographer is more important
> > than the equipment. Equipment is important, but not as important as the > > photographer. Equipment is only as good as the photographer who uses it.
> >
> > A poor photographer is still a poor photographer no matter how much he
> > spends on gear. Expensive equipment merely gives the poor photographer the
> > means to create high resolution lousy images.

Or, to be more accurate, better technical quality images that are wanting in
terms of composition.

Really John, do you think that an Adams could have churned out his
esthetically stunning landscapes from the American southwest with a pocket
110 camera?
Please don't say yes, I will have to mock you if you do.
I don't think it would have mattered how good a darkroom technician he was,
there would still have been a little something missing.
This is an extreme example, but sometimes one needs to use absurd examples
to make succint points.

You (and a few others it seems) are pretending that it is an either/ or
issue; that a photographer is either an expert or a hack. There are a lot of photographers who are good enough to benefit from better equipement that fit
into neither of the categories that you presuppose, and whose pictures do
improve with better equipment, be it something with more resolution, or
better noise control, or faster and more responsive performance.
Look at Dave Savage's night photography and how much better it got when he
went to the D700 as an example.

Carry this forward a bit, I use a K7. A friend of mine uses a D3.
I can do things with his camera that are simply beyond what I can do with my
Pentax.
Does this make me a bad photographer? Perhaps, perhaps not, but the better
equipment definitely does allow me to do things that are beyond my
capabilities with my K7.that either your or Ken Rockwell could have produced anything near as esthetically stunning as Adams himself.




Please don't say yes, I will have to mock you if you do.
I don't think it would have mattered how good a darkroom technician he was, there would still have been a little something missing. This is an extreme example, but sometimes one needs to use absurd examples to make succint points.

You (and a few others it seems) are pretending that it is an either/ or issue; that a photographer is either an expert or a hack. There are a lot of photographers who are good enough to benefit from better equipement that fit into neither of the categories that you presuppose, and whose pictures do improve with better equipment, be it something with more resolution, or better noise control, or faster and more responsive performance. Look at Dave Savage's night photography and how much better it got when he went to the D700 as an example.

Carry this forward a bit, I use a K7. A friend of mine uses a D3.
I can do things with his camera that are simply beyond what I can do with my Pentax. Does this make me a bad photographer? Perhaps, perhaps not, but the better equipment definitely does allow me to do things that are beyond my capabilities with my K7.


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