Geez, David!  Isn't there some other e-mail system that you can
use other than Excite?  Look at all the trash that comes along
with your e-mail!

Len
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From: "David Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Start-up B/W kit


> Mike Johnston said:<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> It certainly
agrees with
> my anecdotal evidence. I once brought home from the store five
brand-new
> lenses--an El-Nikkor 50/2.8, a Schneider Apo-Componon-S 45mm,
a
> Componon-S 50/2.8, a Rodagon 50/2.8, and an Apo-Rodagon-N
50/2.8--and
> tested them all directly against each other. The Apo-Rodagon-N
was the
> clear winner, and the Schneider 45mm was so decentered that it
was
> obvious it was flawed even without careful testing. It was the
second
> sample I'd used of that lens and both samples were, in Ctein's
terms,
> "real dogs." <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Mike,<br /> <br />
<br /> <br />
> Can you tell me how you could tell the Schneider was
decentered? Are you
> saying the lens elements were not aligned and not that the
lens was not
> aligned with the rest of the enlarger? <br /> <br /> <br />
<br /> Any
> other tips on how to check an englarging lens?<br /> <br />
<br /> <br />
> thanks<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> dave (the lurker)<br /> <br
/> <br />
> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Schneider has since
replaced that lens
> altogether. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I'm a real fan of the
> Apo-Rodagon-N's, although the 105mm I tested was not <br />
<br /> any
> particular standout. I only sold my Apo-Rodagon-N 50/2.8 when
I replaced
> <br /> <br /> it with the Carl Zeiss S-Orthoplanar 60/4, a
lens which was
> about eight <br /> <br /> times more expensive when it was
new. <br />
> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> > The other thing is that
some lenses
> perform better, and are designed for <br /> <br /> > optimum
performance,
> at certain magnifications or distance from the <br /> <br /> >
baseboard.
> So you might want to compare the lenses with that in mind. <br
/> <br />
> > You might find one works best for smaller prints and the
other for <br
> /> <br /> > larger prints. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> The big
problem
> here is that most darkroom workers--certainly beginners--are
<br /> <br
> /> not capable of employing enlarging technique good enough to
see the
> <br /> <br /> differences. Hell, most darkroom workers stop
their
> enlarging lenses way <br /> <br /> down, well past the optimum
f-stop, so
> the grain is mush anyway. I'm sure <br /> <br /> you've done
this, Shel,
> but for the benefit of others: if you take a very <br /> <br
/> good
> grain focuser like the Omega/Peak #1 and simply look at the
film grain
> <br /> <br /> as you stop the enlarging lens down, there's
usually a very
> obvious optimum <br /> <br /> f-stop--starting at wide open in
the center
> of the projected image the grain <br /> <br /> might go from
indisctinct
> to crisp to very crisp to less crisp to mushy to <br /> <br />
very mushy
> as you stop down. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Diffraction is a
MUCH
> bigger problem in the enlarging system than in camera <br />
<br />
> lenses. The only reason to buy "apo" enlarging lenses is that
they are
> <br /> <br /> diffraction-limited half a stop or a full stop
wider open.
> Any lens that <br /> <br /> allows you to print wider open
will be
> better--Ctein and Arthur Kramer, the <br /> <br /> lens guru
from _Modern
> Photography_ who started all this lens-testing <br /> <br />
business way
> back when, used to have a running argument about which was <br
/> <br />
> better--Arthur's Apo-El-Nikkor 105mm, which was diffraction
limited wide
> <br /> <br /> open at f/5.6, or Ctein's garden-variety but
tested and
> hand-picked <br /> <br /> Rodagons, which were
diffraction-llimited at
> f/4.5. Arthur actually won that <br /> <br /> argument when
Ctein finally
> got to test an Apo-El . But Ctein had a good <br /> <br />
point. <br />
> <br /> <br /> <br /> My S-Orthoplanar is diffraction limited
wide open.
> It beats the <br /> <br /> Apo-Rodagon-N by half a stop.
Awesome lens.
> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> - -- Mike <br /> <br /> <br /> <br
/> "Ain't
> photography grand. The more you know the less you know." (Shel
<br /> <br
> /> Belinkoff) <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> * * * <br /> <br />
Find out
> about Mike Johnston's unique photography newsletter, "The 37th
<br /> <br
> /> Frame," at http://www.37thframe.com<br /> <br /> <br /> <br
/>
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