About a month about I was taking pictures at a party with the K7 and the 360 flash. I had it pointing straight up for some reason. I forgot about it (I don't us a flash too often). I turn the camera sideways for a vertical shot of a kid and fire the flash point blank in his sister's face. She has a pale complexion so it bounced pretty well , . . ;-p
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 1:49 PM, P. J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote: > I find even "Pros" in most cases clueless on the use of flash. I should > have taken a picture at the outdoor venue where the three "Pro" > photographers were shooting a stage show with bounce flash, no ceiling, no > bounce cards, just bouncing flash off of the night sky... Kind of like > all those flashing P&S, and disposable camera flashes from the nosebleed > seats at a stadium concert. I didn't know if I should to laugh or cry. > > On 10/8/2010 9:20 AM, David Parsons wrote: >> >> It is very rare to catch someone else's flash during a shot, even in a >> pit situation. >> >> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 7:51 AM, paul stenquist<pnstenqu...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Oct 8, 2010, at 7:21 AM, paul stenquist wrote: >>> >>>> On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:18 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: >>>> >>>>> Of the almost 5000 shutter actuations I've put on my K-x since I got >>>>> it, I'd venture to guess that less than 100 have fired the flash. >>>>> Admittedly, some of that has to do with battery life paranoia -- the same >>>>> reason I've used the live view on it less than a total of 30 seconds. I >>>>> just don't find it helpful enough to warrant the power usage. And I love >>>>> the way the K-x uses available light. Focusing problems and occasional >>>>> lens-build issues be damned. It'll be tough for Nikon or Canon to lure me >>>>> away when Pentax has such great low light performance for so much less >>>>> dough. >>>>> >>>>> Let 'em chuckle. In the meantime, I'll be taking pictures of them >>>>> fumbling to replace batteries in the dark. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Any pro photographers will be using cameras with multiple lithium >>>> batteries that provide well over 1000 exposures. No one will be fumbling >>>> with batteires. And no one will be using a pop up flash. Probably all will >>>> have the dedicated Nikon or Canon flash with a dome style diffuser >>>> attached. >>>> But they will shoot their long lens stuff with available light if it's >>>> reasonably bright. The full frame Nikon has at least as good low light >>>> performance as the Kx, with a lot more resolution and superb autofocus. >>>> >>>> >>> Excuse my replying to myself, but I should point out that flashes aren't >>> used by PJs just to compensate for a lack of light. They're a lighting tool. >>> If you have to shoot an outdoor speaker, chances are he or she will be >>> backlit or perhaps even crosslit. That's done so the speaker doesn't squint. >>> In that case, flash is used for fill. When those PJs shoot interview >>> subjects in close, they use flash, in part, because others are using flash. >>> Each wants to make sure that for their shot, the lion's share of the light >>> will be coming from close to camera, rather than from 150 degrees to the >>> rear. If you're shooting at ISO 3200 with no flash and ten other photogs are >>> shooting at ISO 400 with flash, many of your shots will be grossly >>> overexposed with light from odd angles. But you should be able to sneak in a >>> few frames between flashes. >>> >>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> On 10/7/2010 6:45 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> That's a very good point. I (personally) think that flashes turn just >>>>>> about everything into a snapshot. So while all of others are blasting >>>>>> away >>>>>> with flashes, I'm more likely to be shooting at f/2 without a flash. I >>>>>> only >>>>>> own two flashes (a Pentax ringflash, and a Leica flash for a Leica >>>>>> rangefinder) and don't use either. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeffery >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If they give me too much grief, I'll just look at their gear and ask >>>>>>> them, "So ... what's with the flash? I've never had to use one of those >>>>>>> with my K-x. What's it like?" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Walt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/7/2010 4:38 PM, David J Brooks wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One suggestion is not to get all bent out of shape when the Nikon >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> Canon shooters giggle at your Pentax. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They will, i've been there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However i can still get photos from my Pentax gear published so i >>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>> smile at them.;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Walter Gilbert<ldott...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Jeffery. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I shouldn't have too much trouble blending in, as I don't plan on >>>>>>>>> packing a >>>>>>>>> giant piece of glass with me. Most likely, I'll take my 70-300 >>>>>>>>> f/4-5.6, my >>>>>>>>> 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 and my 2X TC as a "just in case" for anything else >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> might be going on that I don't have the reach for. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- Walt >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10/7/2010 11:38 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My opinion is to make sure photos don't look like they were posed >>>>>>>>>> (as you >>>>>>>>>> see on the society page), and to be unobtrusive when possible. >>>>>>>>>> Blend in >>>>>>>>>> without drawing attention to yourself when possible. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jeffery >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've just received my first press pass -- as a freelance >>>>>>>>>>> photographer for >>>>>>>>>>> a couple of upcoming campaign events in a US Senate election. >>>>>>>>>>> Having never >>>>>>>>>>> done this sort of shooting before, I assume I'll get a pretty >>>>>>>>>>> decent vantage >>>>>>>>>>> point for the stump speeches and maybe some access behind the >>>>>>>>>>> scenes. Given >>>>>>>>>>> the collective years of experience on the list, I thought I'd ask >>>>>>>>>>> if anyone >>>>>>>>>>> has any tips on the best way to capture dramatic, compelling >>>>>>>>>>> images at >>>>>>>>>>> events of this nature -- what to look for, technical and >>>>>>>>>>> compositional >>>>>>>>>>> advice, etc. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, any advice on the best mental approach to take in shooting >>>>>>>>>>> events >>>>>>>>>>> of this nature in terms of establishing oneself as a credible >>>>>>>>>>> photographer >>>>>>>>>>> would be greatly appreciated. As a matter of background, I was >>>>>>>>>>> granted this >>>>>>>>>>> press pass by a person who had seen my work on Facebook and >>>>>>>>>>> Flickr and >>>>>>>>>>> really enjoyed it -- or at least she told me as much. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, I have a bit of a dilemma. Should I approach this as an >>>>>>>>>>> ostensibly >>>>>>>>>>> hard-nosed photojournalist trying to capture the "reality" of the >>>>>>>>>>> campaign >>>>>>>>>>> trail in a consequential election? Or, given the very early >>>>>>>>>>> stage of my >>>>>>>>>>> development as a photographer, should I approach it as a >>>>>>>>>>> potential >>>>>>>>>>> connection for future job opportunities by taking shots geared >>>>>>>>>>> toward making >>>>>>>>>>> the subject look as good as I can? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As a matter of pure, career-minded practicality with an eye >>>>>>>>>>> toward >>>>>>>>>>> getting the proverbial foot in the door to future work as a >>>>>>>>>>> photographer, >>>>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate any guidance anyone can offer me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- Walt >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>>>>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>>>>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly >>>>>>>>>>> above and >>>>>>>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>>>>> and follow the directions. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> > > > -- > "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed > moral bankruptcy." > -Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
