While there may have been discussion of pushing color film, my comments
were directed specifically to Bill's reference on testing B&W neg film. 
Why else would he be asking for Acufine & Microphen.  Perhaps two
discussions got tangled up here.  But Bill and i were discuss ing B&W
neg film.

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> We were not discussing BW film. We were discussing C41 processed color
> film. And the techniques that work with BW work to some extent with certain
> C41 films. however, I think Bill is right in saying that push processing of
> C41 does little to increse fim speed. Of course a more contrasty,
> underexposed C41 neg will print better than a flat, underexposed C41 neg.
> On the other hand, the original inquiry was in regard to 800 MAX. This is a
> consumer film designed for point and shoot cameras, and it has a very wide
> latitude. It will generally yield acceptable results within a range of 2 or
> 3 stops, but isn't really stunning even when exposed perfectly.
> Paul
> 
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I think we can agree on that, but ... if, for example we shoot a
> > 400 speed film at 800 and extend development because the contrast range
> > of the scene is low - low enough so that "underexposing" the film by a
> > stop there's still enough shadow density to allow for good detail, with
> > the extended developing time being used not so much as an attempt to
> > rescue lost detail but to increase the highlight density, would you
> > still call that a "push"?  IOW, there's no real attempt to increase film
> > speed so much as there's an attempt to increase the contrast range - a
> > typical expose for the shadows/develop for the highlights scenario.  Of
> > course, for those not familiar with all this, we're discussing B&W
> > negative film here.
> >
> > William Robb wrote:
> >
> > > I define "push processing" as developing the film longer than
> > > the "normal" development time, in an attempt to increase the
> > > film speed.
> >
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