(white) Vinegar is OK if diluted (I think about 2%-3% acid once diluted).
Some do not make proper stop bath but use water to rinse and straight to fixer.
Why not after all if develop time isn't critical. Stop bath isn't
needed (on a chemical point of view) anyway.
Some others use old fixer. Dunno if this is a great idea but it seems
to work OK.

Xtol is used at school, dunno the advantages compared to other
developers, but this mean they find it to be good enough.

2010/12/9 John Graves <jh.gra...@verizon.net>:
> Now being retired, I have also given some thought to the (film) cameras and
> gear that I have accumulated but don't use. So home processing appeared on
> the scene. Am I better off sticking with Tri-X or has anybody had any
> experience with Kentmere (sp) that is being pushed a bit by one of the local
> stores.  Also seeing some reports about a new to me Kodak developer
> (Xtol)that is easy to use and environmentally friendly.  Given a choice I
> think I'd buy the small packets of D-76.
>
> Also, I am on a septic system.  I read on the web that developers and stop
> baths are fairly close to vinegar and also fairly dilute. So there is not
> any problems flushing them (literally.)  But the fixer does contain silver
> and some other potentially nasty stuff.  Flush it also? Or mix everything
> together and flush it.  That is another suggestion I saw.
>
> As a really secondary question, as I was inventorying my gear, I came across
> a really old pack of microdol.  Is there a shelf life for sealed package of
> chemicals?  Is microdol still available?
>
> John Graves
> WA1JG
> jh.gra...@verizon.net
>
> Thibouille wrote:
>>
>> 2010/12/8 P. J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Tri-X in D-76 is pretty forgiving, you can soup in a bathroom and pretty
>>> much time it with your pulse.  Learned to do that in a Photojournalism
>>> course taught by a semi-retried Photo-Editor from the Providence Journal.
>>
>>>  Except for the fact that that the film used was 35mm rather than 4x5 it
>>> was
>>> a technique that wouldn't have been alien to Weegee.
>>>
>>
>>
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