Big thanks, Godfrey.  I just ordered the Martin Evening Book.  I'll deal with 
this catalogue mess after a look that this book.  I shall also try some of your 
solutions below--in a few days, that is :-).  I'll let everyone know how it 
goes--or didn't :-)  Cheers, Christine



On Jul 11, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Christine Aguila <christ...@caguila.com> 
> wrote:
>> I greatly appreciate everyone's help here, but things are a mess with this 
>> catalogue.  The more I look try to compare the two folder structures on the 
>> 2 main drives, the more messy it seems to be.  I think I'll ignore this for 
>> a few days, and try again when I've stopped weeping :-).
> 
> Probably a good idea. You sound a bit overwhelmed, it's best not to
> work through a logical puzzle when you're too emotionally involved.
> 
> Here's a workflow:
> 
> First look at the the Lightroom catalog's Folders panel. For every
> folder in the  Folders panel, right- or control-click on it and choose
> the "Show Parent Folder" if the option presents itself until all the
> folder trees are visible back to the top of the volume. If all folders
> ultimately sit under a single parent, that makes things easier.
> 
> Now take a look at the "Lightroom 2" volume in the Finder (or Windows
> Navigator if you're running Windows). If you copied the folder tree to
> your "Lightroom 2" hard drive in the course as it was on "Lightroom
> 1", the solution is simple: in Lightroom, control-click on that
> top-level parent and choose the "Update folder location" command, then
> pilot your way to that same folder on "Lightroom 2", and choose it.
> Lightroom should now recognize where all the files are.
> 
> If you didn't copy the folder tree exactly as it was on Lightroom 1 to
> Lightroom 2, now you have the more onerous task of finding files and
> folders, matching them up with the same command as above, to a
> disparately organized file system. It's doable, and for 8000 files in
> the catalog it won't take that long if you work methodically and
> calmly, one group of files at a time. You can usually find groups of
> files by a key filename and capture date, then set the folder location
> in Lightroom for that file and all neighboring files will then be
> recognized. It takes some time, but it's worth it not to lose all your
> metadata annotations (keywords and such) and any processing you've
> already applied.
> 
> As an alternative, the fastest and simplest thing to do to get the
> whole file repository organized into a single tree is to create a new
> catalog (don't delete the old catalog folder! and create the catalog
> folder outside of the old one) and do a mass import. Create a "Photos"
> directory at the top level of the external drive, set the import
> destination starting point to that directory, set Lr to "Move" the
> files there, and have it organize the files by capture date on import.
> It will create a complete subdiirectory tree based on date sequence,
> rooted at that single folder. If you don't care about metadata
> annotations and prior processing work (and there are occasions when it
> isn't important!), the job is done ... go forth, annotate and start
> editing your images afresh.
> 
> If you do care about your prior work, the reason to keep the original
> catalog folder is that once the files are reorganized like this, you
> can start Lightroom with the old catalog and work through it, hunting
> up the images by file name and capture date more easily and then set
> the location in the old catalog properly. In this case, consider the
> new catalog you used to move the files around into an organized tree
> to be a temporary, you can discard it. The result of doing this all
> the way through is that your original files are now in a singly rooted
> directory tree structure, the catalog has all the appropriate data in
> it, and from this point on it is easy to maintain.
> 
> To finish off, drag the entire "Photos" directory to the new volume
> "Lightroom 3" to back up the directory structure and files. That
> copies everything to the new hard drive. Do the same thing with the
> catalog folder. Now you have a complete backup.
> 
> To KEEP the system backed up, I recommend using external utility
> software (Lightroom's backup function replicates only the .LRCAT file;
> you want to backup both the catalog and the photo files from their
> source locations to the Lightroom 3 backup drive). I use ChronoSync by
> Econ Technologies (OS X only), but any good file synchronizing
> software utility should work the same. With ChronoSync, I create two
> synchronizer documents: one synchronizes the image directory tree from
> Lightroom 2 to Lightroom 3, the other synchronizes the catalog folder
> from internal drive to Lightroom 2. I then create a container
> document, put the two synchronizers in it, and set that to run
> automatically every night or on demand when I need it to.
> 
> (You still want to have the Lightroom backup run once a week or so as
> it includes database verification and cleanup in the process. You
> should set Lightroom to put these backups on the "Lightroom 2" volume,
> in a folder separate from the Photos folder.)
> 
>> I think it's time to rethink my workflow and photo management system, and I 
>> think I need some tutorials on advanced photo management and catalogues 
>> skills.  It's to the adobe videos for me, and perhaps a purchase of a book.
>> 
>> If anyone knows of a good book for Lightroom 4, I'd appreciate the 
>> recommendation.  I have the Scott Kelby book for the early Lightroom version 
>> (1 or 2 ), and thought it ok, but I found him a bit wordy.  If there's 
>> another book you'd recommend by a different author who gets right to the 
>> point, I'd be very grateful.
> 
> Of course, I have some bits on this stuff on my articles page:
> http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles
> See #s 06, 07, and 08. The "Lightroom Learning Resources" article is
> old and needs to be updated, but might have some useful info for you.
> 
> I bought the latest book by Martin Evening recently and it is an
> exhaustive reference for Lightroom 4: well written and clear.
> <http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Photoshop-Lightroom-Book-Photographers/dp/0321819594/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342029392&sr=8-1&keywords=martin+evening+lightroom+4>
> 
> For online video tutorials, I find Julianne Kost's set for Lightroom 4
> to be the best starting point, and free (funded by Adobe).
> http://jkost.com/lightroom.html
> 
> Take a deep breath and relax. ;-)
> -- 
> Godfrey -  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com
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