I loved this part:

"Responses claimed with absolute certainty there were laws that prevented any changes once a lens was released unless they were announced . . ."

Reminds me of the kid in sixth grade who settled every argument with, "you can't do that, it's state law!"

-- Walt

On 7/25/2013 10:12 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
Interesting article, thanks for the link.

It would seem that the optical change in the Super-Multi-Coated 135mm
f2.5 from version 1 (5 elements in 4 groups) to version 2 (6 elements
in 6 groups), the same optical design that was carried over to the
first SMC K version) was an example of a "silent change" made by
Pentax. They did change the Part Number (which dealers would have
noticed, and you can find stamped in the little A/M switch) but many
people are completely oblivious to the fact that these are (in fact)
*completely* different lenses with the same name. (In this case it was
an upgrade. The 6 element design (K) is one of the highest rated
Pentax lenses... 9.31 out of 10
http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-K-135mm-F2.5-Lens.html)

Especially aggregious is the supposed "Review Page" on Pentax Forums
for the lens, which groups the two optical designs together so you
don't know if the reviewer is reviewing the one or the other.
http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/Super-Multi-Coated-TAKUMAR-Super-Takumar-135mm-F2.5.html

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Darren Addy <pixelsmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Had to Google those two acronyms:
"Two of the common languages spoken on forums are CAKWAF (Complete,
Absolute Knowledge Without Any Facts) and AFIDAWAB (Any Facts I Don’t
Agree With Are Bullstuff)."

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Aahz Maruch <a...@pobox.com> wrote:
Roger Cicala of lensrentals.com talks about silent lens upgrades and
makes a few snarky comments about the blogosphere along the way:

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/07/silent-changes

(Figured this was only semi-OT given the recent discussion about lens
differences.)
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