Hi Stan

The problem you present is one of the reasons I don't agree with the
"get it exact in the camera" philosophy.  My theory is that a lot of
that type of thinking was a result of technology limitations of
historic days.  There was a time when the only thing most people could
make from a large format negative was a contact print.  More recently,
many of us shot transparency film.  You exposed and framed to get it
exact in the camera because the original image was the only image.

Today, especially with digital, the image you capture on the sensor is
only one step in the processing chain.  When you don't know the final
use (and there may be many) you need to shoot pretty loose to give you
freedom to crop the final image.  I felt the same way when I shot B&W
35mm negative film.

You might want an 8x10 enlargement, a 5x7 or Square to more easily fit
a printed book page and something along a 16:9 ratio to be sent to
your TV screen.

None of those are the same aspect ratio as your 2x3 viewfinder or
original image.

When you don't know what your going to do with the final image, shoot
loose and crop later.

One of the cameras I use has an option to project guidelines for
different aspect ratios on the viewfinder image.  I seldom use the
feature because I usually don't know what aspect ratio I need for the
final image.  I use the full image size capability of the camera and
shoot loose.

gs


George Sinos
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Stan Halpin
<s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:
> Rick Wormer recently posted a very nice PESO:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17505433&size=lg
>
> Comments he has received so far mention the good composition. I totally agree 
> - it is a boffo shot as presented.
>
> However, viewing it quickly brought to mind some mild struggles I have been 
> having. The recent workshop I attended yielded several shots I have been 
> motivated to print, and I have started layout of a Blurb book based on that 
> week's shots. The problem I am having is that many of my compositions, as 
> seen through the viewfinder and as captured by the sensor, and as viewed on 
> my monitor, are just about exactly the way I want them. But the format is not 
> an 8x10 nor 11x14 nor 13x17. So I need to print with too wide margins top or 
> bottom. Same problem with Blurb layouts. Looking at Rick's image, I cannot 
> see how he would be able to print the image in any standard format; any 
> cropping on the sides would damage/destroy his composition.
>
> Paper can be trimmed, mats and frames can be custom cut. But it is still a 
> nuisance.  I would love to have firmware in the camera that would show the 
> viewing area with an 4x5 ratio (or other selectable ratio) partial mask. Many 
> P&S cameras have a selectable format ratio when taking the photo;  I wouldn't 
> want that. But if I am thinking "this shot could make a nice print", I would 
> like a viewfinder reminder of the area(s) that would correspond to print 
> format ratios. If I decide on a different presentation mode later, I would 
> still have the full-frame image to work with, unlike with the P&S approach.
>
> stan
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