Based on what I've read, in-lens focus motors have been a warranty problem for 
all manufacturers. I had one failure, the DA 60-250, from among my three SDM 
lenses. But I love them.

Paul via phone

> On Dec 31, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Rick. Some of the user reviews I looked at commented on SDM problems. 
> I noticed comments here that SDM has been improved in newer lenses. I've been 
> assuming that in this case lenses assembled recently had improved SDM drives 
> and lower failure rates - so I've been heartened to consider using it. I will 
> say that the past SDM issues would make me want to buy new vs old, to be sure 
> to have warranty coverage.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
>> On 12/31/2013 10:33 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> I've been tempted by the 17-70 for years; the SDM problems have held me back 
>> (and being frugal, of course).
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2013, at 23:07 , Mark C wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Jonathan. Is there a review of the 17-70 f4 on dxomark? I can't find 
>>> it but I am probably missing it. They seem to have a high regard for the 
>>> 16-45 though! I appreciate your feedback on the 17-70 as well.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>>> On 12/30/2013 9:51 PM, ma...@redwoodhorses.com wrote:
>>>> Check out
>>>> http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Ratings
>>>>  I personally like the 17-70 f4 lens.
>>>> jonathan
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Dario Bonazza
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 3:50 PM
>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>>> Subject: Re: Opinions on DA 17-70 f4
>>>> 
>>>> I did the same for the same reason. Quality-wise, it's a bit worse than the
>>>> 16-45, but the difference is not so obvious.
>>>> The zoom range and the silent focus are true bonuses for my photography,
>>>> hence I'm not tempted to get back to the 16-45 (which I still own).
>>>> Dario
>>>> 
>>>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>>>> From: Mark C
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:07 AM
>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>>> Subject: Opinions on DA 17-70 f4
>>>> 
>>>> I'm thinking about getting a DA 17-70 f4 as an upgrade to my DA 16-45 f4.
>>>> Mostly looking for a little more reach and less gap between the long end 
>>>> and
>>>> the short end of the telephoto zoom that I usually carry with it. I don't
>>>> really need an f2.8 lens and, besides, they are not much longer than the 
>>>> one
>>>> I have.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have any experience wit this lens? The user reviews I have
>>>> stumbled into seem to be inconsistent. Photozone.de gives it fairly high
>>>> marks...
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
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