You can't forget what you never even knew, John. But after Googling it, I agree with others who called that Pentax panorama function "pathetic". It makes my point: That simply cropping an image to a wide aspect ratio does not make it panoramic (regardless of what the marketing department tells you). It is rather easy to tell a true film panorama camera: Is the resulting negative (not print) longer than the standard? For 35mm, that means the negative should be longer than 36mm.
Pentax pz1-p: No - It's panorama "function" is similar to the Ansco Pix Panorama: No http://www.lomography.com/magazine/282165-lomopedia-ansco-pix-panorama Hasselblad Xpan: Yes (24x65mm) Now if I was going to argue against myself... I would say that a Fuji G617 is really just a 5x7 view camera with a fixed lens (105mm) and one that uses 120 film instead of 5x7 sheet film. The film plane is flat (not curved) so the film is doing the same thing that a set of masks would do on a sheet of 5x7 film (without wasting the film). Or a crop of the print (or digital image) would be equivalent. You would get the same effect by putting 35mm film in a Pentax 67 or 110 film in a 35mm film camera (yes, that has been done: http://www.popphoto.com/how-to/2013/05/how-to-hack-two-rolls-110-film-35mm-spool ). So the Ansco/Pentax pZ1-p masking method is just as valid, except it doesn't save any film... just fails to expose it. I'm glad I brought it up, if for no other reason than I don't want a Fuji g/gx617 as I once did, after thinking this through. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 12:55 AM, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote: > You've apparently forgotten what the trailing 'p' in the PZ-1p stands for. > > > On 4/14/2015 12:01 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >> >> It's a nice gallery with many wonderful images but, at the risk of >> being pedantic, I must say that I feel that a large percentage of them >> are not panoramas (if we are using the term in the traditional >> photographic sense and not simply as a synomym of "a vista". A true >> panorama results in a wide aspect ratio, but a wide aspect ratio does >> not necessarily make a panorama. A panorama is created in one of two >> ways: >> 1) by stitching together two or more exposures (ideally made by >> pivoting around the lenses nodal point) that results a a Field of View >> wider than would have been possible with a wide lens on the normal >> film/sensor format. >> 2) by the use of a lens with the Field of View (and image circle) of a >> larger format, used on a smaller format film/sensor. (As in a 5x7 film >> capable 90mm lens being used in conjunction with a 120 film format in >> the Fuji G617/GX617. Another example might be a strip of 35mm film >> exposed in 6x7 camera with a 6x7 lens. >> >> Shooting in true panorama fashion can be a real challenge, both in the >> taking and the making of the image. Not so with merely cropping a >> traditional image into a panorama-imitating aspect ratio. Perhaps I >> was reading too much into the theme of "Panorama" and thus my >> expectations are out of line. If so, I apologize. But I have a real >> appreciation for real panoramas, and I was let down by a significant >> percentage of the images in this gallery. That being said, I made no >> submission myself, feeling that I had not made a true panorama in >> quite a while. >> >> All of that being said, my favorite images were Ken Waller's "Denali >> Falls" (the only vertical image of the entire gallery and an image >> that reminds me of one I took while hiking as a lad in Washington's >> Olympia National Rainforest) and David Mann's "Wet Feet", which is >> near perfection (and by "near" I mean "I wonder if the use of a >> polarizing filter might have made it just a wee bit closer to >> perfection"). Lovely images, everyone! >> > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
