Darren - you say:

> ...A panorama is created in one of two ways:
> 1) by stitching together two or more exposures (ideally made by
> pivoting around the lenses nodal point) that results a a Field of View
> wider than would have been possible with a wide lens on the normal
> film/sensor format…

I think you should rather frame this as “the way people used to have to do 
panoramas is one of two ways:…”

My “panoramic” submission to the PUG this month was a stitch of three or four 
frames. It was shot using a 55mm lens which on the 645Z yields a 35mm 
equivalent field of view of a 45mm lens. The resulting stitch-up needed 
cropping to remove the jagged edges which resulted from imperfections in my 
handheld rotation of the camera. If I had had a wider lens and had changed to 
that wider lens I might have been able to capture most if not all of this 
scene. In which case I would have cropped it to something approximating the 
view I submitted to the PUG since the background added nothing to the picture.

So, in short, my PUG image does not meet your definition of “panoramic”, but I 
do think it is a panoramic view. My own definition would place the emphasis on 
the viewer rather than on the technology/technique used to achieve the image. 
Thus, because a viewer would have to turn and/or swivel their head to be able 
to take in the width of this scene, then my image is panoramic. Cropping to a 
2x1 aspect ratio or greater, like any other crop of any other image, is an 
artistic choice used with the intent of bringing emphasis to some portion(s) of 
the scene. In this case, the aspect ratio helps signal the width of the scene.

stan

On Apr 14, 2015, at 12:01 AM, Darren Addy <pixelsmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's a nice gallery with many wonderful images but, at the risk of
> being pedantic, I must say that I feel that a large percentage of them
> are not panoramas (if we are using the term in the traditional
> photographic sense and not simply as a synomym of "a vista". A true
> panorama results in a wide aspect ratio, but a wide aspect ratio does
> not necessarily make a panorama. A panorama is created in one of two
> ways:
> 1) by stitching together two or more exposures (ideally made by
> pivoting around the lenses nodal point) that results a a Field of View
> wider than would have been possible with a wide lens on the normal
> film/sensor format.
> 2) by the use of a lens with the Field of View (and image circle) of a
> larger format, used on a smaller format film/sensor. (As in a 5x7 film
> capable 90mm lens being used in conjunction with a 120 film format in
> the Fuji G617/GX617. Another example might be a strip of 35mm film
> exposed in 6x7 camera with a 6x7 lens.
> 
> Shooting in true panorama fashion can be a real challenge, both in the
> taking and the making of the image. Not so with merely cropping a
> traditional image into a panorama-imitating aspect ratio. Perhaps I
> was reading too much into the theme of "Panorama" and thus my
> expectations are out of line. If so, I apologize. But I have a real
> appreciation for real panoramas, and I was let down by a significant
> percentage of the images in this gallery. That being said, I made no
> submission myself, feeling that I had not made a true panorama in
> quite a while.
> 
> All of that being said, my favorite images were Ken Waller's "Denali
> Falls" (the only vertical image of the entire gallery and an image
> that reminds me of one I took while hiking as a lad in Washington's
> Olympia National Rainforest) and David Mann's "Wet Feet", which is
> near perfection (and by "near" I mean "I wonder if the use of a
> polarizing filter might have made it just a wee bit closer to
> perfection"). Lovely images, everyone!
> 
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