You obviously know nothing of masochism and rope...
> On 8 Mar 2018, at 18:51, mike wilson <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > Your masochism knows no bounds. > >> On 08 March 2018 at 16:36 Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote: >> >> >> At the same time I was learning photography I was also starting to read >> French literature... >> >>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 15:57, Godfrey DiGiorgi <godd...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> You crack me up, Bob! That's a great line ...! :-) >>> >>> When I was that age, I'd already bought my own first camera (a Minolta 16-P >>> which cost me the grand sum of $19 at Camera Craft in New Rochelle, NY), >>> having been given a couple of Kodak cameras before then. But I wanted >>> something more adjustable. My mother loaned me her Argus C3... with which I >>> learned a great deal about ruining film until I figured out how to work >>> aperture, shutter speed, and focus. AND remembered to wind on to the next >>> frame before re-cocking the shutter. >>> >>> There really isn't a modern equivalent. I'd never start a youngster on a >>> 35mm film camera nowadays, and any digital camera today has way more >>> capabilities and automation ... And the expectations of young people today >>> are quite different from my expectations of a camera in 1968. >>> >>> However, as a teacher of photography, my goal in getting people who are >>> interested started out is to let them begin with focus and understanding >>> light, and understanding the difference between what your eyes see and what >>> the camera might record. Nothing on the market today would start a young >>> person off with a better basic understanding of those things than an >>> instant film camera with manual focus, and it would also serve to give them >>> the immediate return on their effort that is so important to the learning >>> experience. Something like the Lomo Instant Square I obtained recently or a >>> Polaroid SX-70 with the Polaroid Original film would do a great job of >>> teaching these things, and would also be special, different, from the >>> smartphone experience in ways that would be beneficial to learning how to >>> be patient, how to be economical of exposures, and how to "look, think, and >>> consider" before shooting. >>> >>> G >>> — >>> No matter where you go, there you are. >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:22 AM, Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sounds like he needs an adult real-life lesson that will leave him feeling >>>> inadequate, unloved and in despair at the pointlessness of existence, so >>>> anything by Pentax will do. >>>> >>>> When I was about that age someone bought me an Instamatic, which quickly >>>> frustrated me, but one of my schoolfriends had an Olympus Pen-F (the >>>> half-frame one) and we could use the school darkroom, so I learned a bit >>>> with that. There is a digital version now - something like that would >>>> probably be good. >>>> >>>> B >>>> >>>>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 14:31, Eric Weir <eew...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A sister has asked me for advice on a beginning camera for her grandson. >>>>> He’s 12, intelligent, creative, self-disciplined—all-in-all pretty >>>>> precocious about many things. I have my own thoughts, which may not be >>>>> best, but wondered what y’all might recommend. >>>>> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.