Love my ,new to me SP , starting to hate the 
magic needles.

Dave

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From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 00:28:26 -0400
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup


All I know is that I didn't think it was 
humanly possible to incorrectly
load any modern camera, it's so easy you can do 
it sleeping.


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 From: "Peter Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:47 PM
Subject: RE: Dry firing roundup


> Maybe I should clarify.  The film canister 
that allowed dry firing
> when the camera was incorrectly loaded was 
not DX coded.  Does anyone else
> want to try the other bodies in question with 
non coded canisters?
>
> At 05:27 PM 9/20/2002 +0100, you wrote:
> >P30T will dry fire regardless of film 
presence or misfeeds
> >
> >MZ-M  - Peter Alling "I can deliberately mis-
load the example of the
> >ZX=M I own and it will fire and advance even 
though there is no film
> >movement.  Since this camera is based on ZX 
series I would bet that all
> >other ZX/MZ cameras with the possible 
exception of the MZ-S will work
> >the same way."
> >MZ-M - Brendan "The MZ-M has the same film 
system as the other mz
> >cameras, normally it won't fire if it sees a 
misfeed."
> >
> >MZ-50 will only dry-fire with an empty film 
chamber, misfeeds or
> >misloads lock the camera MZ-30 ditto
> >MZ-5N ditto
> >MZ-S ditto
> >SF-1 ditto
> >PZ-20 ditto
> >
> >Z1(p?) - Jostein  - it will only fire with 
an empty film chamber
> >Z1P - Mike - it wont fire without film
> >Z1P - Dave Mann - Oh yes it will as long as 
there is an empty film
> >chamber!
> >
> >67 will dry fire with the 'frame counter 
trick'
> >
> >The Z1/Z1P and MZ-M are getting some 
disagreements here!
> >
> >But for these disagreements, I am tempted to 
think that all 'electronic'
> >cameras will fire as long as the back is 
shut and either the chamber is
> >empty or the film has fed 
successfully.  Mechnical cameras don't seem to
> >care.  Just need to resolve the 
disagreements and see if there are any
> >transitional cameras which wont dry fire at 
all.  Peter Alling said that
> >there were some which needed a cardboard 
insert to 'pretend' there was
> >film loaded - any model numbers as examples?
> >
> >Any others?
>



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