I've done the same for head shots with my 67 165.4 and the #1 tube. (I
can get head and shoulders without a tube.) That's why I asked I
certainly wouldn't want anything sharper. 

Bruce Dayton wrote:
> 
> All I can say is that I have shot some close up wedding rings and head
> shots with tube #1 and my 165/2.8 that look better than my 35mm FA
> 100/2.8.  Granted we are talking 67 here, but what I have seen has
> been tremendous with just the tube.
> 
> Brother Bruce
> 
> Saturday, September 21, 2002, 7:56:06 PM, you wrote:
> 
> JCOC> Because In my experience, PENTAX Non-IF tele lenses do not
> JCOC> perform as well when used at close up ranges less
> JCOC> than the designed-in minimum focus distance. If you use
> JCOC> a high quality closeup lens you are actually changing
> JCOC> the optical design. This results in better optical performance
> JCOC> than simple ext. tube can deliver. In fact, some of pentax's
> JCOC> early zooms came with matched high quality closeup lenses for
> JCOC> closeup use rather than just extending the helicoid further.
> JCOC> BUT, of course, you need to use a very high quality closeup
> JCOC> lens for best results.
> JCOC> JCO
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 5:29 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: SMCT 135/2.5 UPDATE/source for closeup lenses????
> >>
> >>
> >> Why not use the short extension tube? That should give you good portrait
> >> focusing distance.
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> Dan Scott wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 05:51  AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Anyone know of a webstore that sells high
> >> > > quality closeup lenses at good prices?
> >> > > What are the best brands? Are they all single
> >> > > element designs or are some doublets?
> >> > > I want to buy a 67mm size +1 closeup lens for
> >> > > my 200mm F4 SMCT for P6X7 to use for portraits.
> >> > >
> >> > > JCO
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > JCO,
> >>

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