Ivan, you are doing pretty good and I believe your
explanation is of gread help to everybody who was not
very familiar with the theory.
I hope my note didn't offend you.

Compliments,
Mira

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> M P wrote:
>  > One can find all that in the academic texts but
> they take two hundred
>  > pages to start explaining it. If someone
> explained that to me in a
>  > popular language in my early days, I would have
> enjoyed my university
>  > time much more. And if all theories were
> explained in such a way, it
>  > would take approximately one book for the whole
> four year course. So,
>  > Ivan get to work.
> 
> I'll take that as a complement.  Thank you!
> 
> There's just one problem:  I am not a professor! 
> All I did was show up for 
> class, pay attention, and study hard (well, most of
> the time).  Doing that, 
> I managed a B in Fields I and an A in Fields II. 
> Not being a tenured prof, 
> any book I would write would not have standing in
> academia.  And if it was 
> too good and too easy to understand, it would reduce
> the number of courses 
> and semesters needed for the EE degree!  Tuition
> revenues would plummet, 
> and there would be staff cuts!  Textbook sales would
> decrease!  The need 
> for new construction of classrooms and expansion of
> facilities would 
> disappear!  Now do you understand the evils of
> increased efficiency?  ;-)
> 
> There is lots of math that is needed to back up the
> field theory.  What I 
> wrote yesterday had no math proofs of the field
> theory.  So, in effect, 
> what I wrote was unsubstantiated.  However, in order
> to offer proof, I 
> would have to get into the math.  While the math is
> essential for a 
> complete understanding of fields, it is way beyond
> what is needed for a 
> "working knowledge" of fields.  And the math does
> not help explain field 
> theory to someone whose math skills are less than
> expert.  IMO, the problem 
> with EE textbooks is that they rely entirely on math
> to explain the theory. 
>   Even among people who understand the math, page
> after page of equations 
> tends to blur one's vision.  What is needed is a
> multi-faceted teaching 
> method:  1) explain the subject in plain language as
> much as possible, 2) 
> give examples or draw analogies in plain language,
> 3) present the math 
> proof, 4) explain how each step of the math proof
> actually proves 
> something, and 5) give worked out examples using the
> math proofs.  I have 
> yet to encounter an EE textbook that does all these
> steps.
> 
> Oh, those profs!  How clueless they were, about real
> circuitry!  My prof 
> for Fields I (also my faculty adviser) was a total
> theoryhead.  Every time 
> a discussion came down to prototyping a circuit, he
> insisted that was too 
> simple a subject for him to waste his time on.  He
> didn't even approve of 
> his undergraduates fussing with actual circuits.  A
> waste of an engineer's 
> time, he thought - leave that to the technicians. 
> It was all I could do to 
> supress my anger when he exhibited that attitude. 
> Meanwhile, I would hang 
> out in the lab, helping other students struggle with
> the proper pinout of 
> TO-92 and TO-220 transistors, hooking up the scopes
> properly, how to take 
> measurements, etc.  There were 3 of us in the lab
> (all undergraduates) who 
> knew what we were doing, the rest of the students
> were clueless (especially 
> the honors students).  We spent more time helping
> them than working on our 
> own projects.  What made the difference for us 3 was
> that we were into 
> electronics as a hobby before we went to college for
> the EE degree.  The 
> others had no previous exposure to electronics.  I
> have no idea what made 
> them decide to go into EE...
> 
> Best regards,
> Ivan Baggett
> Bagotronix Inc.
> website:  www.bagotronix.com
> 
> 
> M P wrote:
> > One can find all that in the academic texts but
> they take two hundred 
> > pages to start explaining it. If someone explained
> that to me in a 
> > popular language in my early days, I would have
> enjoyed my university 
> > time much more. And if all theories were explained
> in such a way, it 
> > would take approximately one book for the whole
> four year course. So, 
> > Ivan get to work.
> > 
> > As for the vias, it mostly depends on the board
> manufacturers. Let's say 
> > their minimum whole size is 15mils (realistic
> value) and their specified 
> > minimum anular ring width is 8mils (again
> realistic value) that would 
> > result in 15mil + (2 x 8mil) = 31mil. You can
> either stick to their 
> > specs, or try to get down to 30mils and hope all
> goes well (not 
> > recommended), or add 1mil to the annular ring
> (trust no pcb 
> > manufacturer) and get 33mils overall diameter.
> 1mil means a lot on a pcb 
> > and can be a difference between making the board
> or not. I haven't seen 
> > any specific rules correlating the track width and
> the via diameter.
> > 
> > Igor
> 
>  
>
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