I think it was the VERY short fuse on this offer that has everyone up in arms. I was called last Friday afternoon about this. I complained about the short notice and the gal mumbled something about telemarketers had called earlier. Well, if they did they didn't leave a voicemail message. I placed the order, but I had to call a department manager at home to get approval.
Tom Seim PNNL -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Karavidas Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:52 PM To: Protel EDA Discussion List Subject: Re: [PEDA] 6.0 ? This discussion is really getting old. It happens every time they release a new version. People bitch and moan about not getting the upgrade for free while at the same time they bitch and moan about annual maintenance costs with other EDA software. You can't have it both ways. Either pony up the money every year like you would with Orcad or PADS or whatever and get the updates (if they come or not and if you've been following the Orcad camp, you'll know the changes are miminal). Otherwise stay with Altium knowing you don't have to pay any update fees (for bug fixes AND new features) and just keep using the tool as-is. You should know by now that Atium will give 3 or 4 services packs for "free" and then it's time to pay for the next one. What's the big surprise? Do you expect them to keep updating the software for 5 to 10 years with no revenue stream? I'm sure you don't. Maybe to make people happy, they need to concentrate on purely fixing bugs in the service packs and not adding ANY features until the bugs are gone. People would bitch about that too. Some would say "why don't you add this little cool feature now?" and Altium would have to reply: "It's not our policy to add any features regardless of simplicity until we have the bugs fixed in the existing code (regardless of how benign they are). I think they have found a good balance of fixing lots of bugs and making the software quite useable while at the same time giving people new features at no extra cost. It's sort of like getting a meal for free at a restaurant when the service has been bad. They are trying to redeem themselves and say yes we've had some problems but let this be a token of our appreciation of you as a customer. You want to eat for free for the rest of your life because someone didn't cook your steak right once? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Sapienza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 6.0 ? > Brad, > > Not only am I in the same situation financially speaking, It just seems as > an ambush because personally I was expecting SP 5 long before the next > major upgrade. I can't even get enough upgrade money before the end of Q1. > I won't eeven step into the feeling of some of my clients which seem to be > interested in a (financially) plannable platform. I can say for sure that > many are looking at the competitive product. I'll say no more before I get > slammed again. > > Joe > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Velander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 11:54 AM > Subject: RE: [PEDA] 6.0 ? > > > Dennis, > It is absolutely hilarious that Altium is acting as such a company in such > desperate despair and expects us to jump on the same bandwagon. I got a > telephone message regarding the AD6.0 upgrade sometime between Dec 22nd > and Dec 29th with the proviso that it was valid until the end of December. > Well I was not in the office to take advantage of the offer, it just > points out their ridiculous lack of real marketing effort. > > "Let's call everyone over the Xmas holidays and make them an offer that > they most likely cannot exercise." Not taking into account anything like > fiscal planning and budgets. What planet are these guys from, I thought > Australia was a terrestrial location? Seems it is somewhere off-world but > definitely not a place where they practice common business practices. With > 8+ seats we are supposed to come up with $24K without any prior notice or > even time within which to propose such an expenditure and receive > approvals? Crazy, sheer lunacy! > > Sincerely, > Brad Velander > Senior PCB Designer > Northern Airborne Technology > #14 - 1925 Kirschner Road, > Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7. > tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225 > fax (250) 762-3374 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 8:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Protel EDA Discussion List > Subject: Re: [PEDA] 6.0 ? > > > > yes, i guess the question is: > is it worth doing ? > > ds > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum > > To Post messages: > mailto:[email protected] > > Unsubscribe and Other Options: > http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com > > Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum > > To Post messages: > mailto:[email protected] > > Unsubscribe and Other Options: > http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com > > Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > ____________________________________________________________ You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum To Post messages: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe and Other Options: http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ____________________________________________________________ You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum To Post messages: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe and Other Options: http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
