Darren,
As for the speed or usefulness of the demos, yes I understand what you
mean about seeing how an experienced user does it. However, this demo or others
like it does little other than show one particular action can be done. Yuup it
can be done, the demo showed them doing it but I still don't understand
precisely how to do it myself or for anything other than copying their exact
actions/example. And your boss (or others) think you're an idiot because the
demo "Shows how it is done". I have seen Altium and others now touting these
demos as some form of learning tool which they probably should be as I am now
finding out. A demo is a demo, not a tutorial or manual.
With your explanations and looking at the example several more times,
it starts to become a little clearer. However there is a 'lot' of missing
explanation/detail. The biggest thing I have now noticed is, in the middle top
"Choose Paste Action" window of the Smart Paste, why are there three operations
that all list wires, several list ports, several other list labels/netlabels.
Why three, "Ports and Wires", "Net Labels and Wires" and finally "Ports, Wires
and Netlabels"? What is the difference would be my next question, why the overt
redundancy? I am not looking for you or anyone to answer, just raising the
observation as I had looked for explanation to my earlier questions.
Yes I would love to switch (I say that hesitantly and with caution,
knowing the headaches I will suffer). Given my druthers I would have probably
switched a couple of years ago (AD2004?). This year I actually convinced the
powers that be to upgrade to AD2004 SP4 (during their June 2005 fire
sale/pre-extreme price jump) and it still sits in the shrink-wrap. Then it
turns out that a lot of our circuit designers do not have adequate hardware to
run the program. Doesn't look good for any status change on that issue in the
near future.
Sincerely,
Brad Velander
Senior PCB Designer
Northern Airborne Technology
#14 - 1925 Kirschner Road,
Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7.
tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225
fax (250) 762-3374
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To: 'Protel EDA Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] 6.0 ? it is here
Hi Brad,
> -----Original Message-----
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> Dennis,
> I watched a few of them (6-8), yes I would have to
> admit they are minimally instructive but I found them far
> from complete or fully instructive. It is not much better
> than sitting and watching an experienced user operate the
> package in real-time (as fast as they can go) while you are
> trying to learn. Some of it just raised more questions than
> they answered. I went back and checked for a pertinent
> example from what I viewed.
That's what I want to see, how a pro users the package. The
videos are not step by step instructions yet, expect that
will come in time. The speed can be too fast, when you see
it for the first time, in fact these are slower then the
earlier videos which I made the same comment to Altium about
them being too fast. But you can pause and watch them over as
many times as you like. I don't find them fast at all now.
> In the Smart Paste demo at approx. the 35-40% mark they
> are creating a smart paste bus based upon the previously
> selected nets. I rewound and replayed this section of the
> demo many times just trying to see what I might have missed
> the first few times. They select "Ports, Wires and Netlabels"
> but from that point forward there is no additional details
> that define a Bus, Wire, Port or a Netlabel. Why it places a
> bus and doesn't place a set of wires or a Port. There is also
> a port length setting as well as "Wire length", what
> determines that you placed a Bus with the "Wire" length
> setting vs. a Port with the set "Port length"? There was no
> choice or selection made to place a Bus, "Ports, Wires and
> Netlabels", so if I had wanted individual Wires, a Port or
> Netlabels, I got a Bus!
I the lower middle part of the Smart Paste dialog _you_ choose
the modes, grouped nets (bus) or Expand Nets (wires etc). No
Magic so far. She talks about this at about 30% in.
Here is a picture of the dialog...
http://www.altium.com/Files/AltiumDesigner/images/smartpaste.jpg
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