Brad,

I can't say that I have found that problem but I will acknowledge that I 
haven't 
been looking that closely. I found the benefit was that a string of actions 
gave 
me an indication as to how the designer would like me to use a certain feature. 
This is in contrast to the older method of play with it until I get it to work 
by any means foul or fair ( we all know it was a total waste of time trying to 
use the manuals in days gone by... )

I would suggest that you forward your observations directly to Altium so that 
they get the feedback as lately they are very receptive to well structured 
criticism. I know that they are looking seriously at the video mode of 
conveying 
information. Currently the videos are done by the developers and as you would 
know it is very hard for the developer to write his own manuals as you lose the 
ability to see the problem from the perspective of the novice.

Ultimately the access to comprehensive videos will depend on how the 
product/update sales go and what the stated demand for training is. I know that 
I am old enough to happily trade money for training in order to avoid having to 
sit up to all hours experimenting to work out how to drive a business tool. I 
have also found that I much prefer the video as a learning tool over a manual ( 
still need the manual as a fall back ) but this is a purely personal preference.

Recently I purchased a video tutorial set for a 3d mech cad system & found it 
to 
be a really useful way of getting up to full commercial speed quickly. I have 
been pressing Altium to do similar as I don't have good access to training 
courses in my neck of the boonies. Overall I would rather buy a comprehensive 
video set than go to a course as I have been using the mech cad cd's quite a 
bit 
to refresh skills on certain features as they are well segmented and indexed. 
Having said this, the live online marketing sessions have been useful & may be 
so as a training format too, particularly if archived. Semiconductor companies 
have made very good use of webinars for conveying useful information to 
designers to help them better use their products.

At risk of stating the obvious, this is something that any tool provider needs 
to appreciate. The sales of their products will be heavily driven by the 
existing customers capacity to use the tool to earn income. The better the 
documentation and training for existing users, the higher the level of 
proficiency and sophistication of the user base, the better their chances of 
selling new seats. This is particularly important now that the software is well 
out of the range of an impulse buy, it is both expensive to buy into and 
becoming expensive to maintain. It is drifting into the big guys territory and 
losing the other end of the market to the plethora of cheap windows cad systems.

YMMV

So little time, so much work avoidance going on. Time for another public 
holiday 
yet ;-)



Cheers

Don


  Velander wrote:
> Don,
>       After some of the discussion yesterday I actually went to the Altium 
> site and watched some of those AD6.0 videos.
>       Over half of the operations performed in the videos happens by pure 
> magic, the operator doesn't actually do anything to get the resultant action 
> or the video doesn't show all of the actions performed. Most of the pages 
> during an operation are switched through so quickly, you can't even read 
> which window they are, let alone any of the details/options checked or set on 
> those pages. Often the pages change without any click or operation being 
> shown by the screen or described by the operator so you don't know how they 
> got to where they were going or even precisely where they ended up. The video 
> is also quite often lagging behind the description (on completely different 
> pages than those being discussed) by as much as 5 - 10 seconds.
>       In the video discussing schematic notes I really loved how one mouse 
> click near a bunch of resistors seemingly resulted in a suitable description 
> (not any existing text appearing in or around the area of the resistors) to 
> be added to a note. In other words the videos are little more than pure 
> marketing fluff. About as far from instructional as one can get, may as well 
> just read their release notes or feature sheets and take it for granted that 
> it actually works and is as simple as one can imagine.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Brad Velander
> Senior PCB Designer
> Northern Airborne Technology
> #14 - 1925 Kirschner Road,
> Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7.
> tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225
> fax (250) 762-3374
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Ingram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:06 PM
> To: Protel EDA Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] 6.0 ? it is here
> 
> 
> 
> If you haven't already done so the videos are well worth watching, there 
> should 
> be a few more appearing shortly on Ad6 stuff, if they haven't already. Just 
> back 
> from hols so I haven't looked yet.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Don
> 
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