Duane,

if you setup a clearance rule between keepout object kind and whole board, 
you could have outlines on keepout layer identical to real board outlines 
(probably found on some other layer).

Igor

>From: "Duane Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Protel EDA Discussion List <[email protected]>
>To: "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [PEDA] Fwd:  99SE PCB Component gone afar.
>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:59:04 -0700
>
>If I use the autorouter, then I usually draw the keepout inside of the 
>actual board outline.  So I have usually used the drill drawing layer for 
>the board outline.  This is 99SE and earlier of course.
>
>duane
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:53 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Fwd: 99SE PCB Component gone afar.
> >
> >
> > All/anyone...
> >
> > Just for curiosity's sake, isn't the keepout layer the
> > proscribed layer
> > for defining board outlines? It's been quite a while (20
> > years) but as I
> > recall, Protel manuals specified use of the keepout layer for
> > just that
> > purpose in their tutorials.
> >
> > aj
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Elson
> > >Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:09 PM
> > >To: Protel EDA Discussion List
> > >Subject: Re: [PEDA] Fwd: 99SE PCB Component gone afar.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >David Cary wrote:
> > >
> > >>Dear Brad Velander,
> > >>
> > >>Thank you. This is something I will add to the FAQ.
> > >>http://massmind.org/techref/app/pwb_design_flow.htm#placement_FAQ
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>David Cary
> > >>
> > >>On 4/13/06, Brad Velander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>... Used to be that when I updated a PCB and it brought in
> > >the new components, they were typically in the very top right
> > >quadrant of the working space (to hell and gone).
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I don't know what has changed but more recently I get the
> > >components coming in just to the right and upwards from my
> > >board outline.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>        Actually I just thought of what it could have been
> > >that changed for me. Do you use the keepout layer for your
> > >board outlines? Here at my new employer that is something I am
> > >now doing different than previously, we use the Keepout layer
> > >for our board outline. I will have to test that, previously I
> > >used Mech Layer 1 for my board outlines and typically had
> > >nothing on the keepout layer.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >Yes, if the keepout border exists, the parts hug to the right
> > >of it.  If no keepout primitives are found, then the parts go
> > >to the upper right edge of the workspace, kind of out in neverland.
> > >
> > >Jon
> > >
> > >
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