At 07:00 PM 5/18/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>When I do a polygon plane pour and I set the clearance to 0 mils the pour
>leaves large square gaps around my mounting holes.

You did not state what track width you are using to pour.

>I need a solid plane because I am using it is as a ground plane for an
>antenna.  If I set the clearance to 1 mil then the plane no longer has large
>gaps but has a small 1 mill gap around my mounting holes like it should but
>I don't want that 1 mil gap.  Why does it work with 1 mil but not 0 mil
>clearance.

0 mil clearance is impossible if Protel thinks it is supposed to keep 
it from shorting.

If your mounting holes are not assigned the plane net, Protel is not 
going to pour the plane over it. If it did, this would create a pad 
and a plane, in electrical contact but with different nets. No. No. 
Not allowed.

(There are sometimes situations where you want this, most notably 
when building high-frequency copper "components." There are then ways 
to trick Protel into allowing it, but that is beyond the scope of 
this post. (DXP has a more direct method of allowing such "shorts" 
but it can be done in any version of Protel, though it helps to have 
microinch resolution....)

>I can get around this by placing my ground plane and then adding my mounting
>holes later but I would rather my polygon worked properly so I don't have to
>move my mounting holes every time I "rebuild" my polygon.

There are several ways to do this. First of all, you could use vias 
instead of mounting holes. If you put the plane down first, then pop 
the via down, it will assume the plane net and it will stay that way. 
But I don't like to use vias for fixed pad locations. Vias are not 
meant to be fixed to a particular location.

You could put down pads for the mounting holes, but they might lose 
the net when you reload nets or synchronize.

What I recommend, and what I always did, was to create a schematic 
symbol and a footprint for mounting holes. I put them on the 
schematic if I want them connected to ground. (You could also use 
this to call out mounting hardware on a bill of materials....) If you 
have the symbol and the footprint, the mounting holes will be 
connected to the plane. If you want a solid connection, you can 
control that with the Rules; I think thermal relief may be the option.

If you want to use free pads, they might keep the net -- I forget -- 
but in any case you might want to set a rule. If you give the pads 
the name MH, you can then set a rule for Free-MH which will tell 
Protel to make a solid connection instead of a thermal relief. But I 
think it is safer to use a schematic symbol/footprint. In general, it 
is better to drive design to the extent possible from the schematic.

About pours: generally the best setting for pour grid is zero. This 
is not the same thing as clearance. Normally, the grid will be the 
distance from centerline to centerline of tracks, but if it is set to 
zero, the programmers correctly recognized that someone doing this 
would not want an infinite number of tracks, so the made the program 
use the track width as the separate. Makes the most efficient pours. 
But if one is possibly worried about roundoff error and the like, 
then you could set it to a mil less than the track width, or 
something like that. There is no reason for overkill, unless you see 
some pour artifacts, due to various limitations on where you can pour 
and the line widths.

I'm a bit puzzled that you got square openings with a setting of 0. 
Normally, Protel will surround a round pad with an arc or with an 
octagon. However, if you used square pads for mounting holes (why?), 
this is what you would see, and especially if you are using fat pour track.



 
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