Matt, 3-4 years ago there was a post on this forum detailing how to make P99SE work in Wine. Not sure if that would be applicable today, though it might give you some idea on how to do it. Igor
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 09:20:02 +1000> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > [email protected]> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source equivalent to Protel> > > What I'd really like is for Protel99SE to run correctly under Wine.> Altera > Quartus web edition runs under wine (ironically), but wine can't> seem to > handle programs written in delphi very well...> > I say ironically for > quartus web edition, since most of the tools have> unix-based backends that > require cygwin to run, so they are unix tools> ported to windows, running > under a windows emulation layer in linux.> > To install the other programs > mentioned in other posts is as easy as> "sudo apt-get install geda" or "sudo > apt-get install kicad" to install> either of them under my distribution > (ubuntu), so you don't have to> worry about compiling on that system. Or, you > can do it in synaptic if> you're more graphically-inclined.> > As to the > notion that command-line tools are somehow "unprofessional" or> "klunky", > well I would have to respectfully disagree. The beauty of> command-line tools > (and particularly those that input/output ascii) is> that they can be chained > together arbitrarily with pipes and fifos, and> invoked via makefiles. Then > any old IDE or editor can be used to run> them, which gives much greater > flexibility for the designer. I use the> altera design tools that way: > invoked from a Makefile, which allows me> to add extra information to the > programming file like build number,> build date and so on. Not to mention I > am not bound to the (IMO poor)> editor shipped with Quartus, I can use > Programmers Notepad under windows> and kdevelop under linux. The build tools > I use (make/sed/awk/bash) are> common to the avr tools I run, so jumping from > altera to avr development> is a snap.> > Back to topic, though; the main > impediment to jumping to a different eda> tool is familiarity with protel. I > use 99SE for all my design work, and> since I'm not a full-time PCB designer > I can't afford to spend a lot of> time learning a different tool. A shame, > really, because it's basically> the only thing that keeps me on windows > rather than linux.> > Cheers,> Matthew van de Werken - Electronics Engineer> > CSIRO E&M - Mining Geoscience Group> 1 Technology Court - Pullenvale - 4069> > p: (07) 3327 4142 * f: (07) 3327 4455 * e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We do not > inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our> children." > -- > Native American Proverb> > > -----Original Message-----> > From: [EMAIL > PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, 25 April 2007 6:16 AM> > To: [email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source equivalent to Protel> > > > > > Yea, seems > the issue you have is that the evolutionary curve > > DOS/Windows > > based > EDA tools underwent over the last 15 or so years is a > > cumulative effort > of a > > large body of work with thousands of users and developers > > doing > it day-in day > > out. > > > > Due to the complexities involved (as with > almost any CAD > > program) it's not > > quite as easy as knocking off an > office suite. > > > > Couple that with the competitive nature of the EDA > market, as > > well as the > > possibility of being able to eventually market > a tool that > > these corporations > > such as Altium look to compete with > big $$$ UNIX-based tools > > and it becomes big > > business. Look at Altium, > right or wrong, it's now a $10,000 > > USD package.> > > > Add that the final > product is costly, as are the mistakes in > > fab/assy if the > > tools > screws up. This might be another reason why most are > > reluctant to > > > switch.> > > > With that in mind, it's no wonder that the GNU stuff is a bit > > > behind. Shame > > too, cause I'd love to see it a good Linux open source > EDA > > system myself. But > > just looking at the recent gEDA PCb project > bugtrack and they > > got a way to > > go...> > > > > > > > In a message > dated 4/24/2007 3:08:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes:> > > > > > > Unless they've done something with it recently, it's > > > limited to an 8 > > > layer> > > PCB.> > > > > > If you're looking for a free > open source professional package to run> > > under Linux - it doesn't exist.> > > > > > > > > > > **************************************> > See what's free > at http://www.aol.com.> > > > > ____________________________________________________________> > You are > subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum> > > > To Post messages:> > > mailto:[email protected]> > > > Unsubscribe and Other Options:> > > http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com> > > > Browse or > Search Old Archives (2001-2004):> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > > > Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current):> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________> You are > subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum> > To Post messages:> > mailto:[email protected]> > Unsubscribe and Other Options:> > http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com> > Browse or > Search Old Archives (2001-2004):> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current):> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE ____________________________________________________________ You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum To Post messages: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe and Other Options: http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
