I agree with your comment, Jon, that there is a lack of understanding of 'a
relation', a 'triadic relation' and a 'triadic sign relation'. BUT, since
many of us who acknowledge the analysis of Peirce are not mathematicians,
then surely, there is some way to arrive at such an understanding without
also being a mathematician.
Edwina
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From: "Jon Awbrey" <jawb...@att.net>
To: "Edwina Taborsky" <tabor...@primus.ca>
Cc: "Gary Fuhrman" <g...@gnusystems.ca>; <biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee>; "Peirce
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Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions
Re: Edwina Taborsky
At: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/13840
Edwina,
Setting terminology aside for just a moment, there is at present a general
lack of understanding as
to what constitutes (1) a relation, (2) a triadic relation, (3) a triadic
sign relation. Those
subjects are treated by Peirce in his logic of relative terms and the
corresponding mathematics of
relations, all of which is clear enough in his early papers. Without a
grasp of that background,
most of what he writes later is doomed to be mis-interpreted.
Jon
Edwina Taborsky wrote:
Gary F - thanks for this introduction.
I think it's important to clarify that, first, the interactions between
the sign and the object; and the sign and the interpretant, are
relations - my use of this term has prompted serious criticism on the
Peirce list! I continue to use the Peircean term of 'representamen' for
this mediate sign...rather than sign. I confine the term 'sign' to the
full triad of object-representamen-interpretant.
And I think it's important to acknowledge that there are nine such
relations available to semiosis - not just the three of icon, index and
symbol - which refer anyway, only to the relation of the representamen to
the object and ignore the other two vital semiosic processes of the
representamen-in-itself and the relation to the interpretant.
Edwina
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