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The following differentiating opinions are significant to the foundations of 
CSP Logic and philosophy of science, and, by pragmatic extension, to his 
philosophy more generally conceived. 

On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Jon Awbrey <jawb...@att.net> wrote:

> Re: Gary Fuhrman
> At: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/13838
> 
> "I think your book will change all that, showing as it does a dicisign — that 
> is, a sign complete enough to be true — must involve both iconic and 
> indexical components, but does not have to be symbolic."
> 
> Gary,
> 
> That statement is the very epitome of the retrograde motion that has occurred 
> in the understanding of Peirce's logic and semiotics in recent years.  If 
> that really is Frederik's thesis then you have just saved me the trouble of 
> an utterly futile discussion.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jon

We all know that CSP was educated as a chemist.  The open question is how did 
his educational history  contribute to his future developments  He understood 
the chemical notations of his day as both a mathematical system and material 
system in his view of “thing, representation, and form”.  CSP’s philosophy of 
pragmaticism is grounded on his opinions relating scientific thought to 
non-scientific thought.

Historically, the notation for chemistry underwent historic changes during CSP 
lifespan as a consequence of the rapid development of organic chemistry.  
Organic chemistry can NOT be notated in the symbol system devised by Berzelius 
(1779-1848) for inorganic chemistry. That is, salts are a composite of two or 
more elements as electrical particles with polar opposition.  This created 
substantial logical tensions for CSP which he never resolved, although he 
worked at the challenge for decades.

CSP recognized that the logic of chemistry was different from the usual logic 
of mathematics because of the conflict between the symbol system devised by 
organic chemists necessarily required icons and indexes that differ from the 
symbol system for inorganic salts.  Most organic chemicals are not ions and 
lack the physical properties of ions.

So, Jon, I both concur and do not concur with your post in the following ways.
I do not concur with the following statement
> That statement is the very epitome of the retrograde motion that has occurred 
> in the understanding of Peirce's logic and semiotics in recent years.

I do concur with the second sentence:
> If that really is Frederik's thesis then you have just saved me the trouble 
> of an utterly futile discussion.

Yes, it would be futile to attempt to fit your interpretation of CSP logic of 
relatives into Frederik's thesis.

I will post more about the details of Natural Propositions and the 
relationships to natural logic shortly, as it relates directly to the 
International system of units for scientific measures.

Cheers  

Jerry

(GaryF - please forward my messages to the Biosemeiotics list serve as I am not 
a member of it.)




 
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